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alwaysask Thu May 01, 2003 06:45am

Do you call time every time a play has ended?

mick Thu May 01, 2003 07:15am

I make a conscious effort to avoid calling 'Time'.

Dakota Thu May 01, 2003 07:43am

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Originally posted by alwaysask
Do you call time every time a play has ended?
Slow pitch or fast pitch?

mick Thu May 01, 2003 07:50am

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Originally posted by Dakota
Quote:

Originally posted by alwaysask
Do you call time every time a play has ended?
Slow pitch or fast pitch?

Tom,
Why does that matter?
mick

Dakota Thu May 01, 2003 08:04am

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Originally posted by mick
Tom,
Why does that matter?
mick

ASA 10-8-I. In slow pitch, play is suspended "..when all immediate play is apparently completed..."

mick Thu May 01, 2003 08:10am

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Originally posted by Dakota
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Originally posted by mick
Tom,
Why does that matter?
mick

ASA 10-8-I. In slow pitch, play is suspended "..when all immediate play is apparently completed..."

Thus, by rule, we do not have to call time, yo?
mick

gsf23 Thu May 01, 2003 08:14am

In slow pitch you are supposed to call time as soon as the ball is on the infield and all play has ceased. In fastpitch, I rarely called time unles it was requested by a player.

mick Thu May 01, 2003 08:35am

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Originally posted by gsf23
In slow pitch you are supposed to call time as soon as the ball is on the infield and all play has ceased. In fastpitch, I rarely called time unles it was requested by a player.

I guess I don't follow that.
If it's merely a custom, then fine. But, the call of 'Time' is a platitude. Play is already suspended by rule, just like after a foul ball. :confused:
mick

alwaysask Thu May 01, 2003 08:43am

Its ASA fastpitch

Dakota Thu May 01, 2003 10:22am

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I guess I don't follow that.
If it's merely a custom, then fine. But, the call of 'Time' is a platitude. Play is already suspended by rule, just like after a foul ball. :confused:
mick

OK, mick, I didn't quote the entire rule, but since you ask...

<font color=blue><b>RULE 10 - UMPIRES. Section 8 - SUSPENSION OF PLAY.</b> I. (Slow Pitch Only) When, in the judgment of the umpire, all immediate play is apparently completed, the umpire should call time.</font>

I don't get why this is a "platitude."

Calling time is how the umpire suspends play in this situation. In a foul ball, play is suspended by the call of "foul ball". In both cases the signal from the umpire is the same - arms raised, palms out. The ball doesn't kill itself. Time doesn't declare itself. The umpire calls it.

[Edited by Dakota on May 1st, 2003 at 10:29 AM]

Ima Green Blue Thu May 01, 2003 10:26am

Mick,
Not for nuttin, but if I don't call TIME! when calling the adult slowpitch men's league, they will juke around on the bases till the cows come home. I find that I don't have that problem in fastpitch and only have to call time when the coaches request, or when I need to get say -a bat or person- off of the field.
Cindy

Dakota Thu May 01, 2003 10:26am

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Originally posted by alwaysask
Its ASA fastpitch

Except for identified dead ball situations (e.g. foul ball, interference call, look back violation, etc.) in fastpitch the ball is live most of the time. Review ASA 10-8.

If you are the plate umpire, you suspend play before you brush off the plate.

If you are calling the game solo, you should call time before you turn your back on the field of play if there are runners on base.

I call a lot of solo fastpitch. I try to return to position behind the plate while keeping my eye on the field, runners, etc., rather than call time. Sometimes, though, it is best to call time just to get reset.

Also, remember, players / coaches do not call time - they request that time be called. Until you call time, the ball is still live - even if the coach has entered the playing field or the batter has stepped out of the box.

mick Thu May 01, 2003 10:36am

That works.
 
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Originally posted by Dakota
OK, mick, I didn't quote the entire rule, but since you ask...

<font color=blue><b>RULE 10 - UMPIRES. Section 8 - SUSPENSION OF PLAY.</b> I. (Slow Pitch Only) When, in the judgment of the umpire, all immediate play is apparently completed, the umpire should call time.</font>

I don't get why this is a "platitude."

Calling time is how the umpire suspends play in this situation. In a foul ball, play is suspended by the call of "foul ball". In both cases the signal from the umpire is the same - arms raised, palms out. The ball doesn't kill itself. Time doesn't declare itself. The umpire calls it.

Thanks, Tom.
Calling 'Time' makes sense with all the words.
mick

mick Thu May 01, 2003 10:52am

Dakota and Ima Green Blue.
 
I, also, call generally call 'Time' whenever I turn away from the field to get reset, or dust, ...or whatever.

A trick that I generally keep in my pouch, and that I am very comfortable using, is the "Implied Time Out". That is to say, if, for some reason after action has ended, I 'fail to call time', and I have turned away from the field, then 'Time-Out' is <u>effected, implied and understood</u>.

I don't have a problem selling it, ...or believing it. ;)

mick




Dakota Thu May 01, 2003 11:03am

I've used the "implied time out" a few times myself. I get no arguments either - probably because the "action" restarted because some runner / coach thought they could take advantage of my temporary lapse.

However, in my "continuous self-improvement" mentality, I consider having to resort to that to be the result of a mistake on my part.


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