interferance on infield fly
 

Interferance on infield fly. One out or two?

Pop-up hit very close to 1st, but clearly fair. Ball lands on runners head, Clunk.

This is a trick question... I just know it.

Unless it is, To get two outs, you'd need to have intentional interference to break up some kind of double play. One out. It's the runner, award the batter-runner first base.

By infield fly, do you mean as in runners on 1st and 2nd infield fly, or simply a pop up in the infield?

If it were actually an infield fly, there is no placing the batter on 1st base, they are already out.

Um. No.

Well... which runner? BR is out the moment you say she is - with the assumption that the ball stays fair, which in this case it did.

So who did this ball hit? The retired BR? Barring intent to break up a DP, you have nothing.

R2 off the base (and assumedly before it's passed a fielder)? That runner is out too.

Was the runner still on the base?

Congratulations, Tom. You are the first to ask the right question.

Forgive the non-umpire, but isn't there an specific exception in the interference rule for a runner hit by an infield fly why touching the base?

Just looked it up in OBR, it's 7.08f: If the runner is touching the base, only the batter is out. If the runner is not on the base, both are out.

I sort of asked it. My answer implies that whether the runner's on the base matters, as it specifies that the runner could be out if off the base. I should have gone further though.

Well, when I first read the question, I thunk it...just didn't type it!

Does that count? :rolleyes:

Taking it a step further, BR is already declared out on the infield fly. F3 misjudges the fly ball, runs forward in front of B2 (who is not touching any base), and the ball hits B2 on the head.

The ball actually landed on the Runner (R2), not the batter runner. Officalls called dead ball, batter was out on infield fly, runners returned to base at time of pitch. Our discussion was do you also call the interferer out?

Apparently, yes, unless he's touching a base.

Yes, if the interferer is off base.

Here is a "get out of jail free card". :cool:
Can't use OBR on this board.

Well, now we have another question or two. Was the runner behind F3 or was another fielder in postion to field the ball AND get an out?

Doh! I swear I even looked to make sure it was the right board.

I was under the impression that, ANY runner contacted by ANY batted ball that has not contacted a defensive player is immediately out?

Nope

What if BR already touched 1B?

Who cares, the BR is out

ok let me rephrase. A base runner who is in fair territory, who is not in contact with a base, who is not already out; is hit by a batted ball that has yet to contact a defensive player. Is the runner out? if not please explain lol

Not always. Imagine the fielder in front of the runner, but misses the ball, and no other defensive player has an opportunity to make an out. Runner's safe, (unless the runner intentionally interfered with the ball.)

Forget that it's a fly ball. Rule on this the same way you would on a grounder. The answer to your question depends on where the fielder is and who else might have a play.

And what's the LOL for?

I'm laughing at myself because I really should Know this.