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AtlUmpSteve Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:52pm
Olympic Sport Poll
 
From: Bruce Wawrzyniak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:11 AM
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Subject: Vote for softball in this poll

Please take a moment to vote for softball at SportsPro Media in a poll of which sport will, in 2013, be voted into the 2020 Olympics.

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HugoTafurst Thu Jul 14, 2011 01:14pm
I am originally from Chicago... How often can I vote?

Also, My Aunt died in January 2010, how many times am I allowed to vote for her?

shagpal Thu Jul 14, 2011 01:38pm
hotdog eating on ESPN.
and poker world series.

AtlUmpSteve Thu Jul 14, 2011 02:02pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 772546)
I am originally from Chicago... How often can I vote?

Also, My Aunt died in January 2010, how many times am I allowed to vote for her?
Assuming that is a serious question, I believe once per computer available to you.

JefferMC Thu Jul 14, 2011 04:13pm
I've already voted due to your similar post on another board.

However, I question whether the IOC will actually look at this web site's poll?

IRISHMAFIA Thu Jul 14, 2011 09:49pm
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Originally Posted by JefferMC (Post 772593)
I've already voted due to your similar post on another board.

However, I question whether the IOC will actually look at this web site's poll?
It is American arrogance at its finest. Polls, letter writing campaigns, petitions, etc. People in this country just don't understand that there is a world outside that really doesn't give a **** what we think.

Dakota Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:17am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 772652)
It is American arrogance at its finest. Polls, letter writing campaigns, petitions, etc. People in this country just don't understand that there is a world outside that....
...removed softball in the first place because the USA won too often. Until France becomes a softball power, it ain't coming back (barring some political miracle). And, just to remind all the coaches who may read this board, you have Easton to thank for it being voted out in the first place. How much Easton equipment does you team buy? Why?

BretMan Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:50am
I can remember all of the "Boycott Easton" rants back when softball got voted out of the Olympics. People seemed to forget about that pretty quick...

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jul 15, 2011 05:14pm
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 772769)
...removed softball in the first place because the USA won too often. Until France becomes a softball power, it ain't coming back (barring some political miracle). And, just to remind all the coaches who may read this board, you have Easton to thank for it being voted out in the first place. How much Easton equipment does you team buy? Why?
Softball was not voted out. They just did not receive the enough votes to remain in. When questioned, many of the voters (and I remind you, these are politicians, not sports-oriented people) admitted they did not realize baseball and softball were two different sports.

shagpal Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:14pm
I blame cricket.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 772874)
Softball was not voted out. They just did not receive the enough votes to remain in. When questioned, many of the voters (and I remind you, these are politicians, not sports-oriented people) admitted they did not realize baseball and softball were two different sports.

Dakota Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:44pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 772874)
Softball was not voted out. They just did not receive the enough votes to remain in. When questioned, many of the voters (and I remind you, these are politicians, not sports-oriented people) admitted they did not realize baseball and softball were two different sports.
But Easton certainly knew. His vote would have kept softball in the Olympics.

HugoTafurst Sat Jul 16, 2011 08:01am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 772921)
But Easton certainly knew. His vote would have kept softball in the Olympics.
I didn't follow this when it gappened, except to be a ware that there was a vote and we lost.
The story I heard was that he recused himself from the voting due to the obvious conflict of interest.

Maybe there's more to the story than I know, but ufortunate as it was for my personal interest, I am impressed by acts of integrety at high levels.

Maybe there is more to the story I don't know.

Dakota Sat Jul 16, 2011 09:43am
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 772984)
I didn't follow this when it gappened, except to be a ware that there was a vote and we lost.
The story I heard was that he recused himself from the voting due to the obvious conflict of interest.

Maybe there's more to the story than I know, but ufortunate as it was for my personal interest, I am impressed by acts of integrety at high levels.

Maybe there is more to the story I don't know.
That was his claim. Here is my claim: as a person in the business of selling sports equipment of all kinds, his entire existence on the IOC was a conflict of interest of exactly the same kind as he only saw fit to recognize in this instance. By his own claim, he should not have been a voting member; he should have not accepted the position. But, then, he wouldn't have had the perks that go with it. His actions were irresponsible no matter how you cut it; either his recusing himself was not necessary, or he should not have had that voting position in the first place. He could have kept softball in the Olympics by choosing a difference course of action; he did not, and softball was kicked off by the anti-USA bigots and the ignorant.

While he is not responsible for everyone else's vote, he is responsible for his own actions, and his own actions resulted in women's fast pitch no longer being an Olympic sport.

So, why is it you buy Easton bats again? (Generic "you", not "You, Hugo.")

IRISHMAFIA Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 772992)
That was his claim. Here is my claim: as a person in the business of selling sports equipment of all kinds, his entire existence on the IOC was a conflict of interest of exactly the same kind as he only saw fit to recognize in this instance. By his own claim, he should not have been a voting member; he should have not accepted the position. But, then, he wouldn't have had the perks that go with it. His actions were irresponsible no matter how you cut it; either his recusing himself was not necessary, or he should not have had that voting position in the first place. He could have kept softball in the Olympics by choosing a difference course of action; he did not, and softball was kicked off by the anti-USA bigots and the ignorant.

While he is not responsible for everyone else's vote, he is responsible for his own actions, and his own actions resulted in women's fast pitch no longer being an Olympic sport.

So, why is it you buy Easton bats again? (Generic "you", not "You, Hugo.")
The kicker is that apparently the IOC has a specific protocol for votes where a conflict of interest exists. From what I read at the time, the IOC policy is to pre-empt action or decisions by the individual and TELL them when there is a COI involving any member and pending action. The IOC Chair never noted a conflict.


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