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fastpitchfan Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:17pm

Is It a Dead Ball?
 
I was calling a game on Friday night and had the following situation: Batter leaned back and swung at an inside pitch (a ball). As she swung, the ball hit her hand, which was out of the strike zone. She then continued her swing. When I saw the ball hit her hand, I immediately called dead ball and sent her to first. My umpiring partner called me over and asked about her swinging and whether or not it should have been called a strike. I replied that I saw the ball hit her hand and when I called dead ball, it killed the remainder of the play, making it a moot point that she swung.

Was it the right call?

UmpireErnie Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:23pm

Under NFHS and ASA rules it would be a dead ball and a strike.

ASA 7-4-H
NFHS 7-2-1g

derwil Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:58pm

Dead Ball - Strike is the proper call.

NCASAUmp Sat Mar 19, 2011 08:15pm

Agree with a dead ball and a strike.

MrRabbit Sat Mar 19, 2011 09:55pm

And if it is strike three she is out.

IRISHMAFIA Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:47pm

But what if.........:confused:















No, it is ALWAYS a dead ball and a strike on the batter, no runner's may advance, no outs recorded unless that was the 3rd strike and then only the batter may be ruled out.

UmpireErnie Sun Mar 20, 2011 01:12am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 741467)
But what if.........:confused:















No, it is ALWAYS a dead ball and a strike on the batter, no runner's may advance, no outs recorded unless that was the 3rd strike and then only the batter may be ruled out.

Until I scrolled down you had me worried!

Skahtboi Mon Mar 21, 2011 08:46am

The correct call has been noted by several others. Dead ball, strike.

In other words, your umpiring partner was correct.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:30pm

As previously mentioned by esteemed members of the Forum, it is a dead ball and a strike on the batter. Remember: 1) A pitched ball that strikes the batter is (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley, search the Basketball Forum for that reference, :D) the ball is always dead. 2) Once (1) occurs the PU must decide if the batter: a) did the batter make a good faith effort to avoid the pitch (this includes deer caught in the headlights look when a fastball runs up and in on the batter and the batter does not have time to react), b) did the batter allow the pitch to hit her, or c) did the batter swing at the pitch. Either (a) or (b) occured or (c) occured. (a) or (b), and (c) cannot occur at the sametime.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. This applies to us that also umpire baseball.

CecilOne Mon Mar 21, 2011 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 742011)
As previously mentioned by esteemed members of the Forum, it is a dead ball and a strike on the batter. Remember: 1) A pitched ball that strikes the batter is (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley, search the Basketball Forum for that reference, :D) the ball is always dead. 2) Once (1) occurs the PU must decide if the batter: a) did the batter make a good faith effort to avoid the pitch (this includes deer caught in the headlights look when a fastball runs up and in on the batter and the batter does not have time to react), b) did the batter allow the pitch to hit her, or c) did the batter swing at the pitch. Either (a) or (b) occured or (c) occured. (a) or (b), and (c) cannot occur at the sametime.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. This applies to us that also umpire .

Did you work with Larry on the new test questions? ;)

argodad Tue Mar 22, 2011 03:18pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 742073)
Did you work with Larry on the new test questions? ;)

:eek: I would not want to see how that would have been transcribed by the non-officiating data entry clerks hired by the FHSAA! :eek:


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