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Sitting here wondering just how many different softball associations
there are. I came up with this list and out of this list I have called
in 8 different ones. {No ISF, ISA, or NCAA. Called tournaments
that colleges were in but strictly showcase type.)

1. AFA, 2. ASA, 3. Dixie, 4. ISF, 5. ISA, 6. Little league 7. NCAA,
8. NFHS, 9. NSA, 10. Pony, 11. USSSA.

Let me know which I missed...

Thanks,

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glen

I know that there is also a SSAA(Southern Softball Association of America)and a ISSA(International Senior Softball Association). I am sure that there are still a dozen or so more.

Scott

There is also a new assn. known as the World Softball League (WSL).

And let's not forget ISF.

Let's add ISC to the list.

Steve M

Mike,

ISF was number 4 on originial list. :D

BTW I am sure that most of you know and probably already
have your copies, but NFHS rule/case books are available
for the 2003 season. Some of you are in the NFHS season
already and some have finished, right Elaine?


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Good catch! Must be time for new glasses that I don't wear.

After I posted yesterday, I started thinking about it, and ISF really isn't an association, but more of a keeper of the gate for international play. A team does not have to be of a certain sanctioning body to play ISF.

I believe in Southern California they play some leagues/tournaments under SCMAF rules. SCMAF stands for Southern California Municipal Athletic Federation.

This is made up of most of the Parks & Rec Departments in So Cal.

Bob

Here's one
 

SPA which is Softball Players Association which is a Senior SP league. I understand it is the 2nd largest of its kind. Which I have had the pleasure of calling its Nationals the last 2 years. White cotton golf shirts with Blue shorts(My kinda league) is the uniform


Don

I'd rather have maybe one or two---
 

strong associations in any given area-----
back north where I lived and officiated for many years
we only has ASA for recreation softball and NYS Assn. for
high school- it worked out well as most were members of both and we held joint meetings and clinics----
I moved here and was faced with a mess of rag tag associations--
I ended up only working high school ball here in FL with an association affiliated with the FHSAA. I see the multi- organization situation as just a bunch of folks squabbling over control of the flow of money
in local softball-- I want no part of all this back stabbing !!!

glen............

You forgot TAAF (Texas Amateur Athletic Federation)...........of course they are a Texas Thang............they replaced much of the old AAU...........

I know some girls that I have coached from the past that have played at the TAAF State Championships.............

TAAF is really a pretty good set of Athletic Competitions...........Lauren played on a State Runner up Basketball team a couple of years ago...........and if you are an old fart.........they even have Masters Categories (all ages male/female for just about every sport)...........(I swam in the 35-40 Masters for a year.......it was a lot of fun).........

Joel

Who is this guy Steve M....Long time no hear'm from.http://www.mansun-nl.com/smilies/peepwall.gif

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Hi Where you been? Busy with ball and not work I hope.


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glen

I've been seeing Steve up awfully early............from 3-5 a.m., if he is not careful...........I will start thinking he is a super early riser like I am............or has been having to take care of many crisis' at his work....................grin

Our Corporate Office put out the word awhile back that non-work related internet trips are mucho frowned upon.............Mama Smith didn't raise no fool................sooooooooo

No boards during the day..............I do miss peeking.............but understand the reasoning behind it.................

Joel

Yup,
Joel is seeing me up early. Work is keeping me pretty busy these days and I've got some other stuff going on that's taking a lot of time - so I'm not on the boards anywhere near as often as I'd like to be. The ball season is over here until March - usually when I get into the rule books & all. I've got a couple of college clinics coming up but then nothing until Feb.

Steve M

Joel,
Masters' swimming - now that might be interesting. Just for laughs, I got timed in a 50 two years ago and was amazed to see a time just over 30 seconds - good thing I wasn't trying to do a 100, though. We used to swim about 6-8 hours a day, just about year-round. But, no such animal like masters swimming up here.

Steve M

Can't Imagine anybody wanting to swim for 8 hours unless the boat sunk!

Swimmming just muddies up the creek, and then the fish won't bite. (Them cement ponds in town were too far to ride bicycles to anyway.)

Roger Greene
(Never sunk a boat while in the Coast Guard. Did have one flood to the gunnels when an engineer popped the cap off a jet-drive we were testing one day!)

My last event as a Masters Swimmer was about 5 years ago in the 50 fly...........(I was 37)

I had swam a 100 free and a 50 free already that day (I think I had around a 1:10 and about a :30)........I would be lucky to break :40 in a 50 today..........lol

I gulped a huge amount of water about 15yds from the finish and got DQ'd for touching bottom.........Lauren did not swim the next year and neither did I.........I was a sprinter in my youth........and as I got older my endurance got better and when I had time.........I would swim miles..........(at a much slower pace........but it was good for me)..........I have not done that for about 5 years either..........although it would do me a lot of good these days..............

There was a regular in the Masters program here on the Gulf Coast that was part of the 1972 Olympic team that swam with Mark Spitz (he was on the Gold Winning 400 Medley Relay team)............he stayed in shape although he was in his late 40's he was a site to watch.........

I was a decent HS swimmer and swam in all the Summer programs............

When Lauren started, I thought it would be fun to participate also..........and it was.........maybe I would be in better shape if any of the kids would have shown an interest in it.............

Joel

Sorry to hijack the thread back ONTO topic, but . . . :)

Maybe fellow ex-Chicagoan Bluezebra remembers this also, but I used to umpire 16-inch under UPA (Umpires' Protective Association) rules. The only difference I really remember is that if the ball fell into the little "triangles" at the back of the plate, it could not be a strike (same as hitting the plate).

Our Bob - bluezebra
 

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Hard to tell it has been raining here since last Friday. Huh!

glen

Yeah Glen, that rain has cost me two weekends worth of umpiring, including one big, major metroplex USSSA tourney last weekend. Before we know it, it will be winter and there won't be any more tournaments to work until '03. At this point, I am slated for three more. I hope that I can get these in.

Scott

Lost Tournaments
 

I have lost two, have another this coming weekend which is
normally pretty large for this time of year. The Babe Z
tournament. This will be our seventh [7th] year. Have one
scheduled for Nov. 23rd & 24th also, then two in Dec. Hope
this mess stops soon. We have had 9 1/4" here so far and it
is raining now. Have the remains of that Mexician strom
coming in sometimes tonight or tomorrow morning. They are
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glen

Maybe it's a sign from the Gods that softball is a seasonal sport and should be approached as such?????????

Since Glen called me by name, I'll have to reply. Our high school went down in the sectionals after winning 8 AAAAA. They won 1, lost 2. Bye, bye. Too bad, we were state runner up last year. Yes guys, we play fastpitch in the fall and we like it. It doesn't mess up travel ball season.
DD Renee has a call back tryout today for a 18U 'A' team--the coach played Div 1 ball (anybody know Jan Phillips, played somewhere, then coached a small college in La.?), her won loss record for JO ball past 6 years is 511-100. Keep your fingers crossed!!! :) :)

USFA IS ALSO ONE ISN'T IT