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IRISHMAFIA Thu Oct 21, 2010 08:03pm

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Boy, did the plate umpire kick a call on the Phillies and they are better off for it.

Halladay tried to bunt (if that is what you want to call it) over the runners. He looked as inept as Charlie Manual attempting a handstand.

An excuse-me attempt hit in front of the left corner, backspinned across the plate and certainly seemed off the plate in foul territory and the PU ruled it fair. Catcher threw to 3B for a force, but F5 couldn't get back to the base quick enough. Fortunately, Halladay didn't run and they threw him out at 1B. Turned out, the Phillies ended up scoring 3 runs.

Didn't MLB expand replay for fair/foul, or is that just on over-the-fence balls?

IRISHMAFIA Thu Oct 21, 2010 08:16pm

Am I the only one who thinks it would be great entertainment if someone just punched Joe Buck and Tim McCarver in the mouth every time they say something stupid like, "he foul tipped that one into the dirt"?

txtrooper Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:08pm

I did not get to see that one, but watched my son's LL game the other night with the same amazement. The PU signaled a foul tip everytime a foul ball came off the bat, which was NOT ultimately caught by the catcher. The same umpire told us that he had never seen a batter not run on a dropped third strike.

Steve M Fri Oct 22, 2010 03:48am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697561)
Am I the only one who thinks it would be great entertainment if someone just punched Joe Buck and Tim McCarver in the mouth every time they say something stupid like, "he foul tipped that one into the dirt"?

Only if they use replay.:D

Welpe Fri Oct 22, 2010 07:32am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697561)
Am I the only one who thinks it would be great entertainment if someone just punched Joe Buck and Tim McCarver in the mouth every time they say something stupid like, "he foul tipped that one into the dirt"?

The only good thing about the Giants not going to the World Series would be not having to listen to these chuckleheads stammer their way through a game.

okla21fan Fri Oct 22, 2010 07:58am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697561)
Am I the only one who thinks it would be great entertainment if someone just punched Joe Buck and Tim McCarver in the mouth every time they say something stupid like, "he foul tipped that one into the dirt"?

Maybe they should hire Michele Smith instead! :rolleyes:

shipwreck Fri Oct 22, 2010 09:00am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697559)
Boy, did the plate umpire kick a call on the Phillies and they are better off for it.

Halladay tried to bunt (if that is what you want to call it) over the runners. He looked as inept as Charlie Manual attempting a handstand.

An excuse-me attempt hit in front of the left corner, backspinned across the plate and certainly seemed off the plate in foul territory and the PU ruled it fair. Catcher threw to 3B for a force, but F5 couldn't get back to the base quick enough. Fortunately, Halladay didn't run and they threw him out at 1B. Turned out, the Phillies ended up scoring 3 runs.

Didn't MLB expand replay for fair/foul, or is that just on over-the-fence balls?

I agree it did look foul, although if you remember, I was taken to task a couple of years ago when I brought up a play on television. The play involved a girl stepping way out of the 24" pitching lane and the view was from straight behind home plate. The concensus on this board said that tv gives a distorted view and angle of plays, and that a person shouldn't use that as a basis for if a call was wrong or not. Did we see this play on some special tv that makes everything acurate? Dave

IRISHMAFIA Fri Oct 22, 2010 09:48am

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Originally Posted by shipwreck (Post 697607)
The concensus on this board said that tv gives a distorted view and angle of plays, and that a person shouldn't use that as a basis for if a call was wrong or not. Did we see this play on some special tv that makes everything acurate? Dave

I agree that TV doesn't always give the best view. However, there was a replay from high on the 3B side in the post-game that definitely looked foul and a replay on ESPN.com shows the ball on the line to the BB behind the back corner of the plate.

However, I was really trying to figure out where U3 was going that he needed to get back to make the call at 3B.

MD Longhorn Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:27am

I wish we'd gotten better replays on this (at least better than the 2 I saw)... I'm pretty sure it was foul, but not sure the replays were good enough to "overturn" if replay existed.

And yeah, the NLCS TV crew is awful, and not just the talking heads. No replays where the viewer wants one. Endless replays on obvious calls. Bad angles in general, switching the view right at the moment of action, just bad TV. Add the talking heads and it's unbearable. (Tie goes to the runner... shoot me)

BretMan Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:30am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697559)
Didn't MLB expand replay for fair/foul, or is that just on over-the-fence balls?

Yep, it can only be used to determine fair or foul on a ball that left the park (ie: a potential home run).

CecilOne Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:25am

Not defending anyone, but most announcers say foul tip when it is not so we have harder time calling by rule. :rolleyes: :(

And yes, both baseball and football have a bad habit of switching cameras at the last minute. :( I really don't need a closeup of the QB :eek: when I could be seeing the formation. :(

CecilOne Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:26am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697559)
Fortunately, Halladay didn't run and they threw him out at 1B.

Why fortunately? :confused:

IRISHMAFIA Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:35am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 697623)
Why fortunately? :confused:

Because the Giants' catcher and manager would probably have been screaming and hollering a lot if the bases ended up loaded with no outs instead of one out that they were anticipating anyhow.

And then we would have to listen to EVERYONE calling for instant replay for every play.

MichaelVA2000 Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 697589)
Only if they use replay.:D

And played it over and over and over and over.:)

argodad Fri Oct 22, 2010 02:57pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 697561)
Am I the only one who thinks it would be great entertainment if someone just punched Joe Buck and Tim McCarver in the mouth every time they say something stupid like, "he foul tipped that one into the dirt"?

I volunteer! :cool:


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