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rwest Wed Sep 01, 2010 01:48pm

If a good pitcher is your friend the reverse is also true
 
Last night I was behind the dish, with a 0-2(I believe) count on the batter. The catcher setup way outside for a waste pitch. The catcher had to reach back for the pitch. It was on the corner above the knees for a called third strike. The batter was not happy; neither were some of the fans. All they see is the catcher having to reach back for the ball, but it was on the corner. Not where the catcher or pitcher wanted it.

KJUmp Wed Sep 01, 2010 05:25pm

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Originally Posted by rwest (Post 690904)
Last night I was behind the dish, with a 0-2(I believe) count on the batter. The catcher setup way outside for a waste pitch. The catcher had to reach back for the pitch. It was on the corner above the knees for a called third strike. The batter was not happy; neither were some of the fans. All they see is the catcher having to reach back for the ball, but it was on the corner. Not where the catcher or pitcher wanted it.

And your point is...??????

MichaelVA2000 Wed Sep 01, 2010 06:34pm

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Originally Posted by rwest (Post 690904)
Last night I was behind the dish, with a 0-2(I believe) count on the batter. The catcher setup way outside for a waste pitch. The catcher had to reach back for the pitch. It was on the corner above the knees for a called third strike. The batter was not happy; neither were some of the fans. All they see is the catcher having to reach back for the ball, but it was on the corner. Not where the catcher or pitcher wanted it.

It's a game of perception.

KJUmp Wed Sep 01, 2010 06:55pm

That's nothing new.

Az.Ump Wed Sep 01, 2010 07:00pm

rwest,


I think I know what you’re getting at. Last high school season in the playoffs I had an intentional walk where two of the pitches were close enough to be strikes. The batter had hit the first pitch about 260’ foul down the line and the coach wanted to walk her. The 2nd and 4th pitches forced the catcher to reach toward the plate and catch them belt high. If they were off the plate it wasn’t by more than an inch (well within the zone I was calling). I called them both balls and received no grief. Either no guts or good game management :rolleyes:. I think it was what everyone expected. It did not show up on my evaluation. In your case I probably have strike 3. After all why not have the catcher set up outside as if they were wasting a pitch only to fool the batter and come back over the plate with the pitch?

Paul

IRISHMAFIA Wed Sep 01, 2010 07:27pm

Do we really need to drag up one of Johnny Bench's most embarrassing moments? :D

Az.Ump Wed Sep 01, 2010 09:25pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 690934)
Do we really need to drag up one of Johnny Bench's most embarrassing moments? :D

Watched it live. If I remember he took it with self deprecating humor and class. Roger,Barry 'et al' must have missed it.:(

Paul

IRISHMAFIA Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:07pm

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Originally Posted by Az.Ump (Post 690946)
Watched it live. If I remember he took it with self deprecating humor and class. Roger,Barry 'et al' must have missed it.:(

Paul

Yep, I remember it well. If they had texting back then, the look on his face would have translated into "WTF?"


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