Missed 1B - double 1B appeal?

[Dakota]

Wasn't this, or a play very much like it, discussed here a year or so ago? As I recall, the discussion divided on two points:

1) Safe, because you cannot honor an appeal for missing a base that the runner is touching at the time of the appeal, and after the BR reaches 1B (whether missed or not), the base becomes one big bag;

2) Out, because the runner did not "return" to the double base since the runner never left the base.

I think I lean toward #1.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by WestMichiganBlue

Batted ball to F6, B-R dives in to 1B, touching the white bag with his hand, beating the throw.

While still laying on the ground and touching the base, the B-R is tagged by F3 who appeals for a missed base. B-R still has not touched the colored bag, but - OTOH - the appeal has to be made before the B-R returns to the bag.

So is he out - touching the white base is no different than being off the base returning from RF?

Or safe because it is too late to appeal?

WMB

I'm not an umpire (nor do I play one on TV ), but my uneducated guess would be that since a play is being made at first, if F3 can tag the B/R before the B/R touches the safety portion of the base, the B/R is out.

I realize what ASA 8-2-M-3-Effect says, but seeing that the B/R must use the colored half of the base in this situation, touching the white base is the same as not actually touching the base.

Thoughts?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

I'm not an umpire (nor do I play one on TV ),

But did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

But did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

No, but I actually was looking up information on one, should I ever go vist an out of state friend since there is one within walking distance of their locale.

Does that count?