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jmkupka Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:01am

Dropping an obstruction call...
 
Hit to shallow RF, B/R obstructed by F3 rounding 1B (F3 standing on 1B).
B/R trots no more than 5' towards 2B, turns & heads back to 1B as the ball is coming back to the circle.
Before reaching 1B, coach says "go!", B/R trots toward 2B (thinking she's at least protected back to 1B). Out at 2B.
At what point is obstruction dropped in this case? What, if any, is the rule about a subsequent play (if the throws from F9 to F4 to F1 are considered subsequent).
Thanks guys.

youngump Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:54am

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Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 684988)
Hit to shallow RF, B/R obstructed by F3 rounding 1B (F3 standing on 1B).
B/R trots no more than 5' towards 2B, turns & heads back to 1B as the ball is coming back to the circle.
Before reaching 1B, coach says "go!", B/R trots toward 2B (thinking she's at least protected back to 1B). Out at 2B.
At what point is obstruction dropped in this case? What, if any, is the rule about a subsequent play (if the throws from F9 to F4 to F1 are considered subsequent).
Thanks guys.

The rule is subsequent play on another runner.
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CecilOne Sat Jul 10, 2010 01:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 684988)
Hit to shallow RF, B/R obstructed by F3 rounding 1B (F3 standing on 1B).
B/R trots no more than 5' towards 2B, turns & heads back to 1B as the ball is coming back to the circle.
Before reaching 1B, coach says "go!", B/R trots toward 2B (thinking she's at least protected back to 1B). Out at 2B.
At what point is obstruction dropped in this case? What, if any, is the rule about a subsequent play (if the throws from F9 to F4 to F1 are considered subsequent).
Thanks guys.

The problem is whether the OBS was before or after 1st. With F3 standing on 1st, the BR probably was hindered befor 1st, but also could be seen/judged as hindered in the attempt to run toward 2nd. If hindered in the attempt to run toward 2nd, then the runner can not be out between 1st and 2nd.

AtlUmpSteve Sat Jul 10, 2010 09:36pm

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 684989)
The rule is subsequent play on another runner.

ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Without a play on ANOTHER (meaning DIFFERENT) runner, or a specified violation (missing a base, passing another runner, or commiting interference), the obstructed runner can NEVER be out between the two bases where obstructed.

Wrong question, based on an incorrect interpretation.

Sorry if this sounds like a slam; the same incorrect question seems to pop up regularly.

SRW Sun Jul 11, 2010 02:08am

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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 684989)
The rule is subsequent play on another runner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 685012)
ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

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