Humor me guys if you please.....fair or foul....

[surf24]

Ball is hit to outfield. It is falling down right over the fair/foul line. The fielder is standing two foot inside fair territory and reaches over and the ball hits his glove and falls into foul territory.

What is it? Fair or foul?

[Welpe]

Where was the ball when it was touched? That is the key. I am inferring from your post that the ball was in foul territory when touched, so it is foul.

[LMan]

Yes. Doesn't matter where he is standing; it's where the ball was when touched.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by surf24

Ball is hit to outfield. It is falling down right over the fair/foul line. The fielder is standing two foot inside fair territory and reaches over and the ball hits his glove and falls into foul territory.

What is it? Fair or foul?

I don't know - not enough information. 2 feet inside? Maybe the ball was foul, maybe fair. I'll ask you, then... was it foul or fair when it was first touched? (Where the player was and where the ball landed, which is all you gave us, are both irrelevant.)

[surf24]

The ball was right over the fair/foul line.....if it would have hit the ground it would have landed on the chalk line......or just inside fair territory.

For the record.....I was not calling this game but playing in it. And yes I do know that I am projecting that it would land on the chalk line.

Here is the deal. This same umpire last week said that a ball landed on the foul side of the chalk line. He actually said, "I saw the chalk puff up but it landed on the foul side of the line."

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by surf24

The ball was right over the fair/foul line.....if it would have hit the ground it would have landed on the chalk line......or just inside fair territory.

For the record.....I was not calling this game but playing in it. And yes I do know that I am projecting that it would land on the chalk line.

Here is the deal. This same umpire last week said that a ball landed on the foul side of the chalk line. He actually said, "I saw the chalk puff up but it landed on the foul side of the line."

Where it would have landed is also irrelevant.

Here's what the umpire has to judge... quite simply: Was the ball over fair or foul territory when it was first touched. That's all - nothing else matters.

If your umpire said what he said, you should have protested - he has the rule wrong. If ANY part of the ball touches ANY part of the line (or is touched, as in your OP, directly over ANY part of the line) - it's fair.

[surf24]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Where it would have landed is also irrelevant.

Here's what the umpire has to judge... quite simply: Was the ball over fair or foul territory when it was first touched. That's all - nothing else matters.

If your umpire said what he said, you should have protested - he has the rule wrong. If ANY part of the ball touches ANY part of the line (or is touched, as in your OP, directly over ANY part of the line) - it's fair.

Thank you mbcrowder. That is what I said and he told me I was totally wrong and needed to go read my manual before I ever open my mouth again. grrr.....

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by surf24

Thank you mbcrowder. That is what I said and he told me I was totally wrong and needed to go read my manual before I ever open my mouth again. grrr.....

You said the word protest?

If your league doesn't allow protests, you need to go to the UIC (or to the League Pres and let him/her go to the UIC) and get this corrected.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by surf24

The ball was right over the fair/foul line.....if it would have hit the ground it would have landed on the chalk line......or just inside fair territory.

For the record.....I was not calling this game but playing in it. And yes I do know that I am projecting that it would land on the chalk line.

Here is the deal. This same umpire last week said that a ball landed on the foul side of the chalk line. He actually said, "I saw the chalk puff up but it landed on the foul side of the line."

He definitely said too much here unless you're dropping context but here's what he may have been saying. The ball hit in foul territory (completely outside the line) and in it's subsequent movement after hitting the ground caused the chalk to fly up in the air.
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