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boss21 Mon May 03, 2010 04:28pm

dead or live
 
When a runner in contact with the bag is hit by a fair batted ball,shouldn't this play be called dead and is it different for softball and hardball?

shipwreck Mon May 03, 2010 05:15pm

Most softball rulesets say the ball is live or dead depending on where the nearest fielder is positioned. If the nearest fielder is in front of the base it is a live ball. If the nearest fielder is behind the base it is a dead ball. Dave

BretMan Tue May 04, 2010 06:10am

One difference between baseball and softball is that in softball a runner accidently hit by a batted ball while in contact with a base is NOT out. Touching the base provides no such protection in baseball (except on an Infield Fly). In baseball, a runner hit by a batted ball while touching a base is just as out as if hit while off of it- and, yes, the ball is also dead.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that most softball associations rule the ball either live or dead depending on if it has passed a fielder when the runner is hit while touching a base. Some definitely do, like ASA and NFHS.

Other's don't. For instance, in NSA the ball is automatically dead when it hits a runner on a base, no matter if it's passed a fielder or not. In USSSA, the opposite is true- the ball remains live! But all agree that the runner is not out.

Those are the four rule sets I most commonly deal with- and there are at least a dozen others out there. What the others might do would be pure speculation on my part and I imagine that you might get a real mix of different rulings.

shipwreck Tue May 04, 2010 08:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 675643)
One difference between baseball and softball is that in softball a runner accidently hit by a batted ball while in contact with a base is NOT out. Touching the base provides no such protection in baseball (except on an Infield Fly). In baseball, a runner hit by a batted ball while touching a base is just as out as if hit while off of it- and, yes, the ball is also dead.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that most softball associations rule the ball either live or dead depending on if it has passed a fielder when the runner is hit while touching a base. Some definitely do, like ASA and NFHS.

Other's don't. For instance, in NSA the ball is automatically dead when it hits a runner on a base, no matter if it's passed a fielder or not. In USSSA, the opposite is true- the ball remains live! But all agree that the runner is not out.

Those are the four rule sets I most commonly deal with- and there are at least a dozen others out there. What the others might do would be pure speculation on my part and I imagine that you might get a real mix of different rulings.

I take back my quote. Dave


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