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argodad Thu Mar 25, 2010 02:27pm
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Originally Posted by shagpal (Post 670569)
oh wait, NHFS rule, I think. I think it's discussed here...

NFHS Forum: New Infield Fly Guidance
It isn't a new rule in NFHS. The "undeclared IF is still an IF" question has been standard on NFHS tests for at least 8 years.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Mar 25, 2010 05:37pm
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 670490)
So to all who believe that the appeal should be honored, how does 4-1-C-3-a fit in?
What about it? Read rule 1, definitions.

bniu Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:11am
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Originally Posted by shagpal (Post 670480)
lemme throw you all a curveball....

if this 5th "fielder" is in the grass outside of the infield, in the outfield playing in behind the second base bag, aka "rover", and an fly is hit right at him w/ infield fly in effect, do you declare an infield fly?

remember, fielder is standing on the outfield right behind 2B, playing "in" as a rover. based upon where he stands? where he makes the play?

if no IF is declared by you or your partner, do you allow either team to request it be invoked per the new ASA rules of IF in effect even if no umpires call it?
as yourself this question: "can this supposedly 5th infielder let the ball fall and quickly get a 'cheap' double play?"
if yes, infield fly
if no, rule accordingly...

IRISHMAFIA Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:32pm
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Originally Posted by shagpal
lemme throw you all a curveball....

if this 5th "fielder" is in the grass outside of the infield, in the outfield playing in behind the second base bag
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Originally Posted by bniu (Post 671597)
as yourself this question: "can this supposedly 5th infielder let the ball fall and quickly get a 'cheap' double play?"
if yes, infield fly
if no, rule accordingly...
But he was on the grass....:eek:

That must mean something, right? Not to an umpire. Hell, even Butch would know better than that.

bniu Tue Apr 06, 2010 09:32pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 672246)
But he was on the grass....:eek:

That must mean something, right? Not to an umpire. Hell, even Butch would know better than that.
you've never seen the field I get to umpire on a lot, the entire field is grass and the only dirt you see are the dirt cutouts around the bases and the pitcher's circle, so pretty much everything's on the grass. Yes, this is a softball field, no I do not know why the school likes to have such a field, but I don't mind, the grass keeps my uniform clean and I don't have to worry about dirt storms. It's a bit strange though as I found I was much slower moving around on the grass the I would be otherwise...


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