Appeal a turn Poll

[shagpal]

steve, can you rephrase the poll to reflect a situation that reflects working as a crew, which is where you are pulling your quote from the umpires manual?

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Everyone, please cast a vote in the poll at the top; that format supposedly guarantees one vote per registered member, and provides the stats, without attempting to count the replies.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by shagpal

steve, can you rephrase the poll to reflect a situation that reflects working as a crew, which is where you are pulling your quote from the umpires manual?

Still missing the point, it would appear.

Originally Posted by NFHS Umpire Manual

"If the appeal is directed to the wrong umpire

Working as a crew means not throwing your partner under the bus. I don't have to know if the runner left early, missed a base, or made an attempt toward second when it is my partner's call, but I sure as he!! need to know what are the requirements to properly appeal every one of them. If the requirements aren't met by the person addressing me when it should be addressed to my partner, my answer is ......
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"That's not an appeal".

Still, not a contradiction from the manual. "If the appeal" is an appeal directed to the wrong umpire, we direct it to the right umpire. If not an appeal, there is nothing to redirect. Still not addressing what they wish to do, they haven't made an appeal until they actually make one.

That's working as a crew. Even though that (working as a crew) isn't actually stated as part of the appeals section in the manual you have cited repeatedly, your description of the intent.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

"If the appeal" is an appeal directed to the wrong umpire, we direct it to the right umpire. If not an appeal, there is nothing to redirect. Still not addressing what they wish to do, they haven't made an appeal until they actually make one.

Follow-up: If a live ball appeal is made to you, the wrong umpire, do you address that immediately or stay with your assignments and address it afterwards?

[shagpal]

steve, just address and argue the umpires manual as it's written. don't argue the merits of what you would do, that's already been established. that point is just going circles now.

ask yourself why the umpires at the top of our game would even consider using such a concept as "wishes" in the manual, and in that context, and what the were they thinking when they inserted it in. I am not responsible for that word appearing. our sanctioning body put it in, so challenge them, what they wrote, and what you think was omitted or not.

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Still missing the point, it would appear.


Working as a crew means not throwing your partner under the bus. I don't have to know if the runner left early, missed a base, or made an attempt toward second when it is my partner's call, but I sure as he!! need to know what are the requirements to properly appeal every one of them. If the requirements aren't met by the person addressing me when it should be addressed to my partner, my answer is ......
.........
.........
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"That's not an appeal".

Still, not a contradiction from the manual. "If the appeal" is an appeal directed to the wrong umpire, we direct it to the right umpire. If not an appeal, there is nothing to redirect. Still not addressing what they wish to do, they haven't made an appeal until they actually make one.

That's working as a crew. Even though that (working as a crew) isn't actually stated as part of the appeals section in the manual you have cited repeatedly, your description of the intent.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by shagpal

ask yourself why the umpires at the top of our game would even consider using such a concept as "wishes" in the manual, and in that context, and what the were they thinking when they inserted it in. I am not responsible for that word appearing. our sanctioning body put it in, so challenge them, what they wrote, and what you think was omitted or not.

You don't seem to realize that you have been arguing with two of them for weeks now.

[shagpal]

it's clear. what they have not made clear is why doing nothing is the ONLY thing acceptable. remember, that is my issue w/ the do nothing camp, they insist everyone to do nothing.

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

You don't seem to realize that you have been arguing with two of them for weeks now.

[luvthegame]

My dip s*** ometer......... thinks an oil change is due.....

[Andy]

Hmmmmm...only one vote for "it's a contradiction"


wonder who that was.....