Batter-runner overruns 1st base, makes an "attempt" to go to 2nd....

[Stevetheump]

What - in your mind - constitutes an "attempt?"

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

What - in your mind - constitutes an "attempt?"

My mind thinking it is

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

My mind thinking it is

Sums it up rather succinctly.

[Stevetheump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

My mind thinking it is

I agree, irish. If the runner makes ME think he made an attempt, then he's "in jeopardy" if he's tagged while off the base. I don't believe in "fakes" or "feints." Either he makes an attempt or he does not.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

I agree, irish. If the runner makes ME think he made an attempt, then he's "in jeopardy" if he's tagged while off the base. I don't believe in "fakes" or "feints." Either he makes an attempt or he does not.

Then we may not agree. How can you not believe in something which obviously occurs?

Either the BR runs through the base or they do not. The only other option is stopping on the base. If the BR does anything which makes me feel I need to be prepared to head toward 2B, whether a turn, deke, even the dip of a shoulder, IMJ, the runner is in jeopardy. I'm not referring to slight movements, but something that gets my attention.

[Stevetheump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Then we may not agree. How can you not believe in something which obviously occurs?

Either the BR runs through the base or they do not. The only other option is stopping on the base. If the BR does anything which makes me feel I need to be prepared to head toward 2B, whether a turn, deke, even the dip of a shoulder, IMJ, the runner is in jeopardy. I'm not referring to slight movements, but something that gets my attention.

I've seen MLB infielders (esp at 2nd base on a hit and run), "deke" the runner in to thinking they are about to receive a thrown ball. Now, IF the runner slows down or stops because of this "dekeing," isn't that "obstruction?" If so, the MLB umps aren't calling it.

[okla21fan]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

I've seen MLB infielders (esp at 2nd base on a hit and run), "deke" the runner in to thinking they are about to receive a thrown ball. Now, IF the runner slows down or stops because of this "dekeing," isn't that "obstruction?" If so, the MLB umps aren't calling it.

different rule set

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

I've seen MLB infielders (esp at 2nd base on a hit and run), "deke" the runner in to thinking they are about to receive a thrown ball. Now, IF the runner slows down or stops because of this "dekeing," isn't that "obstruction?" If so, the MLB umps aren't calling it.

Couldn't care less what MLB umpires do. Different rules, different field, different priorities, different game.

And WTF does that have to do with a BR overrunning 1B?

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

I've seen MLB infielders (esp at 2nd base on a hit and run), "deke" the runner in to thinking they are about to receive a thrown ball. Now, IF the runner slows down or stops because of this "dekeing," isn't that "obstruction?" If so, the MLB umps aren't calling it.

MLB umpires don't call this because it is legal under OBR.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

My mind thinking it is

Ditto