ump calls infield fly, but it is not

[LakeErieUmp]

My comments were directed toward the situation as posted which did NOT specify whether a play could have been made at 1B (or any other base). It seemed the situation was suggesting that BR stopped running when she heard "infield fly, batter is out".

Can't put BR on first if a play was made at any base - that's out number 3.

So that's what I was referring to - what do we do if the IF call resulted in the BR not running? That's where my comments about the offense (and defense) need to know the situation came into play 'cause we can't say "I messed up, BR you get first" if the defense made an easy play because she stopped running at the call.

Does that make more sense now as to where I was going with this line of thinking?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by LakeErieUmp

My comments were directed toward the situation as posted which did NOT specify whether a play could have been made at 1B (or any other base). It seemed the situation was suggesting that BR stopped running when she heard "infield fly, batter is out".

Can't put BR on first if a play was made at any base - that's out number 3.

So that's what I was referring to - what do we do if the IF call resulted in the BR not running? That's where my comments about the offense (and defense) need to know the situation came into play 'cause we can't say "I messed up, BR you get first" if the defense made an easy play because she stopped running at the call.

Does that make more sense now as to where I was going with this line of thinking?

It does. However, why did the BR stop running? Because the PU screwed up. The BR heard that s/he was out, so s/he stopped. If the PU hadn't have called the IFF, I'm pretty certain the BR would've kept going.

So since the PU f'ed up, s/he now has to fix it. If the ball wasn't caught, put the BR on 1B and advance any forced runners. If the ball WAS caught, then none of this matters, as the defense still made the out, and the BR's actions are irrelevant.

[7in60]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

It does. However, why did the BR stop running? Because the PU screwed up. The BR heard that s/he was out, so s/he stopped. If the PU hadn't have called the IFF, I'm pretty certain the BR would've kept going.

So since the PU f'ed up, s/he now has to fix it. If the ball wasn't caught, put the BR on 1B and advance any forced runners. If the ball WAS caught, then none of this matters, as the defense still made the out, and the BR's actions are irrelevant.

This happened to me a couple weeks ago. I called an IFF in a women's league where they don't use the rule. R1 and R2 stopped running, the ball dropped and the defense threw the ball to third. I awarded one base to all runners.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by 7in60

This happened to me a couple weeks ago. I called an IFF in a women's league where they don't use the rule. R1 and R2 stopped running, the ball dropped and the defense threw the ball to third. I awarded one base to all runners.

Was that because you judged the mis-call caused R1 to not reach 3rd in time?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by LakeErieUmp

My comments were directed toward the situation as posted which did NOT specify whether a play could have been made at 1B (or any other base). It seemed the situation was suggesting that BR stopped running when she heard "infield fly, batter is out".

Can't put BR on first if a play was made at any base - that's out number 3.

So that's what I was referring to - what do we do if the IF call resulted in the BR not running? That's where my comments about the offense (and defense) need to know the situation came into play 'cause we can't say "I messed up, BR you get first" if the defense made an easy play because she stopped running at the call.

Does that make more sense now as to where I was going with this line of thinking?

Several bad things can happen as a result of an inadvertent IFF call, mostly to the offense.

1. The BR stops running.
2. The other runners believe the force is removed so they hang back closer to their base than they otherwise would, and may not advance at all if the ball is not caught.

It is also possible the defense will not make a throw for a force out, depriving them of an out.

In the OP situation, this bad stuff only matters if the ball is not caught.