Dumb Call Commentator

tcblue13

Long Foul Fly is missed by F9.
"We'll have to wait and see how that is scored since it went off her glove." How about FOUL BALL.

SC Ump

tcblue13 wrote
How about FOUL BALL.

I believe a foul fly that is misplayed can still be ruled an error for the purposes of determining ERA.

Skahtboi

I don't know how many times I have heard the pitching circle referred to as "the mound" in these SR's, by the talking heads and coaches being interviewed.

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SC Ump wrote
I believe a foul fly that is misplayed can still be ruled an error for the purposes of determining ERA.

No, it can't be unless you're thinking slow-pitch. 😉

marvin

NCAA 14.2.8 Error: A misplay charged to a defensive player when it is judged by the official scorer to have prolonged the time at bat (causes one or more pitches to be thrown) of an offensive player or contributed to an offensive player being declared safe.

Yes, an error can be charged on a foul ball and should be if a misplay prolongs the at-bat. No, this doesn't concern the umpires. It can effect the pitcher's ERA.

Dholloway1962

Not so dumb call commentator I guess!

tcblue13

Dholloway1962 wrote
Not so dumb call commentator I guess!

My bad
I guess not

Skahtboi

Dholloway1962 wrote
Not so dumb call commentator I guess!

Yeah...but who can blame him? So much of the rest of the stuff that comes out of their mouths is! 🙄

tcblue13

Dholloway1962 wrote
Not so dumb call commentator I guess!

Is anyone aware of a dropped foul ball ever being scored as an error even though it is permissible according to the rules to do so?

Does OBR address the situation?:o

vcblue

I love it when the guy commentator on ESPN kept try to get the lady (pitcher) commentator to admit that they go after batters when they crowd the plate. She kept saying, "no we don't do that", and he kept trying to get her to admit that's what they do. He has no business as a fastpitch commentator.

marvin

Under the OBR the play described in the OP could be scored as an error. It would depend on the scorer's judgment. This happens frequently in professional baseball.

Beyond the Basics of Scoring Fastpitch Foftball is in PDF format and published by ATEC. This is available free and is very good. You can buy it in printed format from nfca.org (National Fastpitch Coaches Association).

Baseball Scorekeeping: A Practical Guide to the Rules is an excellent guide to scorekeeping and is based on the OBR.

Remember, whatever general guide you use for scoring rules there may be differences from ruleset to ruleset.

Note: I am not associated with the author or publisher of either publication.

SethPDX

tcblue13 wrote
Is anyone aware of a dropped foul ball ever being scored as an error even though it is permissible according to the rules to do so?

Does OBR address the situation?:o

Funny you should ask. I was up in Seattle watching the Mariners, and the Giants F2 was charged with one on a ball that clearly should have been caught. Even if the official scorer was not going to do it I was going to mark it down on my own scorecard.

It's somewhere in OBR 10 (the rule umpires besides me don't care about 😉).

No wild storms in Seattle over the weekend, just an offense that Mariner fans find, um, prettty offensive. 😛

IRISHMAFIA

vcblue wrote
I love it when the guy commentator on ESPN kept try to get the lady (pitcher) commentator to admit that they go after batters when they crowd the plate. She kept saying, "no we don't do that", and he kept trying to get her to admit that's what they do. He has no business as a fastpitch commentator.

Another one of those cases where someone needed to just tell this guy to "Shut the **** up!" He was annoying as hell! Where is John Kruk?

Steve M

IRISHMAFIA wrote
Another one of those cases where someone needed to just tell this guy to "Shut the **** up!" He was annoying as hell! Where is John Kruk?

I heard they wanted to get Kruk, but he got surprised and put his hands to his head and they got stuck - so he couldn't answer the call.😃

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vcblue wrote
I love it when the guy commentator on ESPN kept try to get the lady (pitcher) commentator to admit that they go after batters when they crowd the plate. She kept saying, "no we don't do that", and he kept trying to get her to admit that's what they do. He has no business as a fastpitch commentator.

If ESPN ever gets back to showing those major slow-pitch games like they did a few years ago, I certainly hope this guy isn't a commentator for it. I'd like to hear him ask someone the same question in slow-pitch. 🙄

wadeintothem

In fairness though, she's not being truthful. Yes they do do that.

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wadeintothem wrote
In fairness though, she's not being truthful. Yes they do do that.

She's probably afraid she'll get fined or suspended for making such admission...oh wait, this isn't major league baseball! 😀