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wadeintothem Thu May 28, 2009 11:17am

I've been working a lot with NCAA umpires to get evaluated and work on their mechanics and to bone up my game.. and I like the rim when shot to left, no need to run in.. just rim.

But on a long shot, they will rim all the way to 2nd, cut in behind the runner, coming into the infield on the 1B side of 2B as the runner rounds 2B. This was a PAC 10 Conference umpire.

That may be fine in 3 man, with PU coming up and U1 rotating home - but in 2 man, where BU has the BR all the way to 3rd, that puts the umps behind the runner and IMO, you would have no chance of a good position for a call at 3. You would have to pass an 18G base runner and be set by the time the runner gets there. yeah right. That runner will be there in about 2 seconds.

Because the BU was behind a runner, I was already moving to assist at 3 if need be. After I saw this the 2nd time, I asked my partner if they expected me to get the call at 3B and they said "no I have the BR to 3B".

???

Not unless you are faster than a speeding 18 Gold bullet you dont.

I like rimming, but in 2 man, it is not ideal in all cases. That mechanic is more for 3 Man than a 2 man system.

So when considering NCAA vs ASA mechanics, I think standards concerning number of umpires typically assigned a game should be considered. Rimming, IMO, is a 3 Man mechanic - with the exception of the lazy rim on the easy base hit to the left/left center.

first2third Sun May 31, 2009 08:50pm

don't recall
 
If I ever did I wont admidit it.

If a tree falls in the woods, let it lie.

IRISHMAFIA Sun May 31, 2009 09:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by first2third (Post 605869)
If I ever did I wont admidit it.

If a tree falls in the woods, let it lie.

And in 6 months it will provide fuel to the next 10K acre fire

CajunNewBlue Mon Jun 01, 2009 08:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 605154)
So when considering NCAA vs ASA mechanics, I think standards concerning number of umpires typically assigned a game should be considered. Rimming, IMO, is a 3 Man mechanic - with the exception of the lazy rim on the easy base hit to the left/left center.

hrmmm... lets say no runners on .. shot to left field fence. U3 goes out and you (U1) rim... how is that different than working the same play in 2 man? personally, I have had no difficulty in getting to third and getting a good 90 on this play even when working 18u ball. (gosh but they weren't gold) maybe you could cut the corner sooner? or I could send you a copy of P90x :p:D ....just kidding.


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