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GaryBarrentine Thu May 21, 2009 10:55pm

When does the play stop?
 
10U Wreck Ball, ASA rules.

Bases loaded, batter hits a swinging bunt, which F2 fields and tags R1 coming from 3rd for an out. F2 then positions herself about a quarter of the way up the 3rd base line as R2 has rounded 3rd and moved about a quarter of the way down the line and stopped. R2 and F2, just stare at each other, 5 seconds goes by, 10 seconds, 15 seconds, 20 seconds, etc.

When does the play end?

wadeintothem Thu May 21, 2009 11:22pm

Just watch the play.. Coaches and parents will be yelling and they'll do something. Hovering UFO scenario IMO.

IRISHMAFIA Thu May 21, 2009 11:26pm

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Originally Posted by GaryBarrentine (Post 603937)
10U Wreck Ball, ASA rules.

Bases loaded, batter hits a swinging bunt, which F2 fields and tags R1 coming from 3rd for an out. F2 then positions herself about a quarter of the way up the 3rd base line as R2 has rounded 3rd and moved about a quarter of the way down the line and stopped. R2 and F2, just stare at each other, 5 seconds goes by, 10 seconds, 15 seconds, 20 seconds, etc.

When does the play end?

When you, the umpire, says it does. Personally, if I see a stand-off, I'll give them 3-5 seconds to proceed in some manner, then I will kill the play. And before someone says something, yes, in FP, too.

Dholloway1962 Fri May 22, 2009 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by garybarrentine (Post 603937)
swinging bunt

huh?????

NCASAUmp Fri May 22, 2009 09:28pm

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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962 (Post 604156)
huh?????

Maybe a drag bunt?

argodad Sat May 23, 2009 12:16pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 604183)
Maybe a drag bunt?

No. Probably a full swing with very little contact -- that's what we always called a "swinging bunt."

Ref Ump Welsch Sat May 23, 2009 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by argodad (Post 604253)
No. Probably a full swing with very little contact -- that's what we always called a "swinging bunt."

Do you mean to describe how it looks when an 80-year old grannie is chasing the burglar out of her apartment with a bat? :D

NCASAUmp Sat May 23, 2009 07:09pm

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 604272)
Do you mean to describe how it looks when an 80-year old grannie is chasing the burglar out of her apartment with a bat? :D

You mean this granny?

4 Corners Blue Tue May 26, 2009 12:54am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 603941)
When you, the umpire, says it does. Personally, if I see a stand-off, I'll give them 3-5 seconds to proceed in some manner, then I will kill the play. And before someone says something, yes, in FP, too.

I agree, I start my pre game at that level (excluding championship play) that "we are here to teach the girls and to have fun" sportsman ship! sportsman ship!! Now this I know may not be viewed upon as the correct by the book thing to do.. But as stated before all the coaches at that level of play in our league know me and my stand on sportsmanship....etc.. Some can argue that is wrong, and I respect thier opinion. I just think there are times we have to employ game management skills at the lower levels, that just are not spoke of at clinics etc...etc... Others thoughts greatly Valued.

Skahtboi Tue May 26, 2009 09:00am

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Originally Posted by 4 Corners Blue (Post 604570)
I agree, I start my pre game at that level (excluding championship play) that "we are here to teach the girls and to have fun" sportsman ship! sportsman ship!! Now this I know may not be viewed upon as the correct by the book thing to do.. But as stated before all the coaches at that level of play in our league know me and my stand on sportsmanship....etc.. Some can argue that is wrong, and I respect thier opinion. I just think there are times we have to employ game management skills at the lower levels, that just are not spoke of at clinics etc...etc... Others thoughts greatly Valued.

Do you also use that spiel about "if you don't agree with a call, you can ask for time, wait until it is called, and then approach the umpire who made the call. If we feel as though there is anything we might have missed, we will get together and discuss the call," in your pregame???

Andy Tue May 26, 2009 10:53am

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Originally Posted by GaryBarrentine (Post 603937)
10U Wreck Ball, ASA rules.

Bases loaded, batter hits a swinging bunt, which F2 fields and tags R1 coming from 3rd for an out. F2 then positions herself about a quarter of the way up the 3rd base line as R2 has rounded 3rd and moved about a quarter of the way down the line and stopped. R2 and F2, just stare at each other, 5 seconds goes by, 10 seconds, 15 seconds, 20 seconds, etc.

When does the play end?

The play ends (in FP) when the ball is in the control of the pitcher in the circle and the baserunners have stopped on a base. The play could also end if the ball is in the control of the pitcher in the circle and a LBR violation is called.

In your case, the play is not over yet...I agree with Wade. With all the parents and coaches yelling, something will happen eventually. Just wait...if your game is on a time limit, so much the better....:D


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