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GreenSuedeBlue Fri May 08, 2009 02:54pm

Runner is hit with a ball
 
A baserunner is on third and the batter hits a liner down the third base line that hits the runner and rolls foul. The ump called it foul and the coaches and crowd were upset about the call. I have 3 questions. Should he have called it dead ball? Does it matter if the third baseman is charging in to field a faked bunt? Is there a difference if the runners foot is on or off the base?This happened at Pickens High School earlier this year.

NCASAUmp Fri May 08, 2009 02:57pm

First off, I wouldn't specifically mention the place where it occurred so prominently in the post.

Second, there's a lot missing here. Was the ball in fair or foul territory when it hit the runner?

wadeintothem Fri May 08, 2009 02:59pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 600704)
First off, I wouldn't specifically mention the place where it occurred so prominently in the post.

Out of curiosity.. what was wrong with the posts location mention?
Its not like the OP included the phone number of the batter.

vcblue Fri May 08, 2009 03:01pm

The only reason to call it foul was if it hit the runner in foul territory. Speaking ASA, if hit the runner in fair territory it is either a live or dead ball. By your post I will assume the ball passed F5. If no other infielder could make and out (like F6) then it is a live ball. If F6 could make an out then it s/b a dead ball with the runner out and the BR put on 1st.

NCASAUmp Fri May 08, 2009 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 600707)
Out of curiosity.. what was wrong with the posts location mention?
Its not like the OP included the phone number of the batter.

I've always considered it bad style.

CajunNewBlue Fri May 08, 2009 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 600710)
I've always considered it bad style.

dang, we suppose to have style? im screwed. :mad: :D

NCASAUmp Fri May 08, 2009 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue (Post 600711)
dang, we suppose to have style? im screwed. :mad: :D

That's just a nasty rumor. ;)

Actually, I don't know what it is about this post, but something doesn't seem right. Maybe it's all the troll activity in the other threads...

IRISHMAFIA Fri May 08, 2009 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by GreenSuedeBlue (Post 600702)
A baserunner is on third and the batter hits a liner down the third base line that hits the runner and rolls foul.

This is absolutely NOTHING at this point. Where is the ball when it contacts the runner?

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The ump called it foul and the coaches and crowd were upset about the call.
Oh, well, **** happens!

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I have 3 questions. Should he have called it dead ball?
He did if he said "FOUL".

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Does it matter if the third baseman is charging in to field a faked bunt?
On whether it was fair or foul? No.

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Is there a difference if the runners foot is on or off the base?This happened at Pickens High School earlier this year.
On whether it was fair or foul? No.

CajunNewBlue Fri May 08, 2009 03:06pm

to answer the question(s) if the ball was in fair territory and the runner did nothing intentional to interfere .. its a live ball. one foot or two on the bag makes no difference. NFHS

CajunNewBlue Fri May 08, 2009 03:08pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 600712)
That's just a nasty rumor. ;)

Actually, I don't know what it is about this post, but something doesn't seem right. Maybe it's all the troll activity in the other threads...

ok.. call me slow (my mom does) but WTF... why would anyone type something in here just to see how or what we answer.. just for sh!ts and giggles?? I dont get it?.... did the WWW run out of porn to look at?

IRISHMAFIA Fri May 08, 2009 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by vcblue (Post 600709)
The only reason to call it foul was if it hit the runner in foul territory. Speaking ASA, if hit the runner in fair territory it is either a live or dead ball. By your post I will assume the ball passed F5. If no other infielder could make and out (like F6) then it is a live ball. If F6 could make an out then it s/b a dead ball with the runner out and the BR put on 1st.

Not with the runner in contact with the base

NCASAUmp Fri May 08, 2009 03:11pm

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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue (Post 600716)
ok.. call me slow (my mom does)

Slow! :)

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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue
but WTF... why would anyone type something in here just to see how or what we answer.. just for sh!ts and giggles?? I dont get it?....

Pretty much!

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Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue
did the WWW run out of porn to look at?

God I hope not....

CajunNewBlue Fri May 08, 2009 03:14pm

I still don't get it.... but thanks for the laugh.

SethPDX Fri May 08, 2009 03:40pm

Hey GreenSuedeBlue...was it a day game or night game? That would make a difference.

Dakota Fri May 08, 2009 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by sethpdx (Post 600727)
hey greensuedeblue...was it a day game or night game? That would make a difference.

:cool: :D

GreenSuedeBlue Fri May 08, 2009 09:24pm

Thank you. I think I understand better now why the umpire called it the way he did. How can I become an umpire? Does it cost anything or is there a test?

ronald Fri May 08, 2009 10:20pm

Remember my post earlier: Have a nice day. Same guy different name. If walks like a ____, smells like _____ and talks like a ____ . Well guess what it is?

HugoTafurst Sat May 09, 2009 07:49am

If you have already had your lobotomy, there is no charge.

NCASAUmp Sat May 09, 2009 07:58am

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Originally Posted by GreenSuedeBlue (Post 600772)
Thank you. I think I understand better now why the umpire called it the way he did. How can I become an umpire? Does it cost anything or is there a test?

There are many different ways to get started. If you want to call just rec games, contact your local parks and rec and start there. However, the training in those departments is minimal, and they won't teach you all you need to know to be successful (and, thus, have fewer problems).

I'd recommend getting in touch with your local or state UIC. You may look them up here.

To get registered, yes, it does cost, and that varies from location to location. There is a test, and it's not an easy one to take. We take it every year.


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