Crow hop or not?
 

ASA 10U Rec. ball.

Pitcher has ball of pivot foot on pitcher's plate, close to the right edge, when she starts the pitch. She moves her pivot foot to the center of the pitcher's plate, but now the heel of the pivot foot is on the pitcher's plate, then she pushes off and drags pivot foot properly.

Is this a crow hop?

No.
What would make it an illegal pitch?

If my partner called an IP for that and ruined a strike in 10U rec, I would throw my hat at him and start kicking dirt and maybe, just maybe, crawl on the ground and hand grenade him with my clicker.

Clicker? Is that like a party favor?:D

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No! Thats not a clicker.
A clicker is a device used to irritate other umpires. ;)

Its kinda like yelling dead ball in middle of a baseball game! :D

I always use "indicator "to irritate and frustrate other blues, when I'm in that kind of mood. :rolleyes:

wish all pitchers would pitch this clean.... then i could eat hot dogs while on the bases.

Because the pivot foot move forward about 2 to 3 inches when it was move to the center of the pitchers plate.

Is that legal in ASA?

Thanks

GaryB

As stated in the OP the heel of pivot foot was still on the rubber... im 99.999% sure that even in ASA that's still legal. ;)

+.001% ;)

For those of you that have been around for awhile.....

On McGriffs several years ago, we used to refer to it as an....

indamaclickerthingy

It is legal in EVERY brand of softball that I know about for the pitcher to slide the pivot foot across the pitching plate, in any direction, so long as there is still contact when she starts to push and drag. Only if she slides off, and pushes from a spot OTHER than the pitching plate is it illegal.

No. YOU used to refer to it that way!

Actually, I believe it was a gentleman named Ed who coined the term.

He was a slowpitch umpire who used to have some great stories about the antics of the players in the AA (alleged adult) leagues he called.

I think what some are looking for in this case is an IP call for the pitcher lifting her heel off the PP while in the act of delivering the pitch prior to the release of the ball.

IMO, that is not an IP.

I generally used a second ball bag while on the bases to carry my cold drink while the hot dog was in the first ball bag.
Does that work for you too:D

I absolutely agree. Nowhere in the rule book does it say that the pitcher "must" push off the PP with the ball of her foot. This was even emphasized at the SOCAL region annual rules clinic this year.

Thanks
 

I was asking just to be sure that his was legal before some rec. coach tried to tell me it was a crow hop.

Thank!

GaryB

I doubt that coach would know a crow hop if he saw a crow hopping.

coach: hey blue, is that crow leaping?? DOH!!!

Believe it or not, this rec. coach had discussed it with the PU and told him to let it go as this was a first year pitcher. So the PU must have thought it was not legal also.

GaryB

:rolleyes:

tell him "go away coach, you are disturbing my zen"