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MichaelVA2000 Wed May 06, 2009 07:31pm

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Originally Posted by ronald (Post 600131)
Must have used the God rule. I assume it exists in NCAA. Now I will have to go look for it.

Rots of Ruck....it's not there!:D

Dakota Wed May 06, 2009 09:30pm

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Originally Posted by ronald (Post 600131)
Here is another story about it and an explanation of the ruling. Since it was a walk-off homerun, the umpires decided that an out was called for. Must have used the God rule. I assume it exists in NCAA. Now I will have to go look for it.

Postbulletin.com: Rochester, MN

Pffft... that's the home town paper of the hero coach.

Dakota Wed May 06, 2009 09:45pm

From the other end of the state (you may need to register to read the article):

Brainerd Dispatch

bkbjones Wed May 06, 2009 09:56pm

If she had slid they couldn't do high fives...:D

Big Slick Thu May 07, 2009 07:45am

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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 600158)
I seem to remember parts of a discussion on a situation like this - more than one teammate slapping hands with a homerun hitter before home was touched. I do not believe that there was a consensus reached as to whether all touches on a hit were to be considered the first - and a warning issued. Or if each touch was treated separately.

Wide Slick - I mean Big Slick is right -

Such a funny, funny, man. Just remember, in the wilderness, no one can hear you scream (Steve and I will be together this weekend, and we are staying in a bed and breakfast far away from civilization).

Steve, we discussed a similar scenario earlier this year in which a runner and the batter were touched on the same homerun (not multiple touches of the batter). By rule, would this mean the warning is issued for the runner, and the out applied to the batter? The consensus between our group is exactly what Wade stated the timing of the warning.

BuggBob Thu May 07, 2009 08:08am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 600136)
However, I've never believed that having a rule book on the field is smart. Yes, you can fix certain situations, but that just opens you up to tons of trouble. The closest my rule book comes to the field is in my car in the parking lot.

There must be a rule book on site, either your's or their's per NCAA rule.

Skahtboi Thu May 07, 2009 08:27am

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 600212)
From the other end of the state (you may need to register to read the article):

Brainerd Dispatch

Won't let me read without registering. Want to post the gist of it?

Skahtboi Thu May 07, 2009 08:29am

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Originally Posted by BuggBob (Post 600268)
There must be a rule book on site, either your's or their's per NCAA rule.

On site can be in your car in the parking lot. They just want one that you can access in a reasonable amount of time.

NCASAUmp Thu May 07, 2009 08:34am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 600276)
On site can be in your car in the parking lot. They just want one that you can access in a reasonable amount of time.

If I just made a potentially blown call, the last thing I'd want to do is go to my car in the middle of the game to get my book. Now, everyone knows where I parked! :D

Maybe it's because you've got teams traveling from all over the country that they want you to get it resolved right away? Don't know. To me, I still don't like the idea. Then again, if there's a protest on one of my games and the teams have to come back to play from that point forward, it's not quite so long a drive.

Dakota Thu May 07, 2009 09:01am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 600275)
Won't let me read without registering. ...

Hint: Bug Me Not

Dakota Thu May 07, 2009 09:05am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 600275)
Want to post the gist of it?

Brief quote from the article:
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At that point Rochester coach Jean Musgjerd protested, saying teammates can't make contact with a player who has hit a home run until that player has crossed home plate and she claimed Erickson should be out.
In the Rochester paper, she denies that. Phooey. She successfully bamboozled the umpires. Shame on the umpires, for sure, but double shame on the RAT.

IRISHMAFIA Thu May 07, 2009 09:33am

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Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 600265)
Such a funny, funny, man. Just remember, in the wilderness, no one can hear you scream (Steve and I will be together this weekend, and we are staying in a bed and breakfast far away from civilization).

Oh, there are so many ways this thread could go from here :rolleyes:

NCASAUmp Thu May 07, 2009 09:43am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 600296)
Oh, there are so many ways this thread could go from here :rolleyes:

Hmmm... "Big Slick," huh? I'm staying far, far away from this one...

vcblue Thu May 07, 2009 09:51am

I don't ump college (I have a 8 to 5 job), however I will weigh in. I take it this rule was put in place to speed up the game and/or sportsmanship (no other reasons for such a dumb rule). If this is the logic behind the rule then the blues blew it. By definition a walk off HR means the game is over, therefore the game cannot be delayed. I also don't see how starting to celebrate a win via a HR 0' to 60' early constitutes a lack of sportsmanship. Therefore, the blues should have told the coach that in their judgment this was only a warning and walked of the field (no protest allowed).

Ron

Big Slick Thu May 07, 2009 09:58am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 600299)
Hmmm... "Big Slick," huh? I'm staying far, far away from this one...

And it is on a major river in PA. River . . . wilderness . . . Maybe Steve's new name will be "Ned".

Oh wait, he is bringing refreshments. Never mind. Steve, you are a wonderful crew member, best crew member ever!!


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