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Daryl H. Long Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:56pm

Look Back Rule
 
Several years ago I presented a Look Back Rule scenario to my state interpreter. The answer I received was in my opinion very flawed and to put it bluntly just plain wrong.

Here is the scenario:
R1 at 2nd. R2 at 1st base. B2 gets ball 4 and the Ball is returned directly to pitcher within the circle. B2 sprints to first and stops on the base. R1 goes to third and stops. R2 did not realize ball 4 until B2 tells her. R1 then advances and rounds 2nd base going several steps toward third, stops, then returns to 2nd.

The ruling I got was that R2 may not round the base at all. She must stop at second. If she rounds the base then she is out...not by LBR but per 8-6-21 which state "a runner is out if the runner fails to keep contact with the base to which she is entitled until the ball leaves the pitchers hand. In this case since there was a runner on 3rd then R2 was only entitled to 2nd base and if she touches then leaves that base with the ball in the circle she is out.

Do any of you buy this argument?

My take is that all runners may round, stop, then return legally to the base (NF 8-7-2).

CajunNewBlue Thu Apr 23, 2009 07:29am

I wouldn't even rent it... much less buy it.

wadeintothem Thu Apr 23, 2009 07:40am

The rule is pretty much in black and white.

Ive also been in the spot on more than a few occasions where someone in my "chain of command" was telling me something I knew was false by rule..

Well like I said - its right there in black and white right?

NCASAUmp Sun Nov 27, 2011 04:08pm

Reported.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Nov 27, 2011 04:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 800274)
Reported.

YOU'RE REPORTING THE GREEK?

Man, how am I gonna fry my Turkey with no Greece?

NCASAUmp Sun Nov 27, 2011 04:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 800277)
YOU'RE REPORTING THE GREEK?

Man, how am I gonna fry my Turkey with no Greece?

Peanut oil is much healthier for you. :)

IRISHMAFIA Sun Nov 27, 2011 04:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 800279)
Peanut oil is much healthier for you. :)

Yeah, but my wife will not allow me to use anything other than canola. She isn't allergic to peanuts, just doens't like them. Of course, that has nothing to do with the oil, but.......I sneak it in there most of the time.

My daughter was complaining about doing the turkey in her oven last Thursday. I reminded her that I offered to do the turkey and it would have only taken me less than an hour as opposed to her four hours. Some people just don't learn :rolleyes:

UmpireErnie Sun Nov 27, 2011 06:08pm

If she STOPPED on 2B then with ball held by F1 in the circle and then continued toward 3B yes we would have an out for leaving too soon.

If she never makes a stop she is fine.. of course once she stops between 2B and 3B she has to make a choice and go toward one or the other. Gonna be fun if she stops then moves toward occupied 3B. Can't stop again or LBR out. Has to hope F1 attempts to make a play!


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