How many runs score?
 

Don't castigate me, I'm trying to help someone else.

Score is
(HS) 3-12
(NCAA) 3-10

in the bottom of 5th HM team ahead, with bases loaded. Batter hits a triple. What is the final score?
Batter is credited with a ( ) ? and how many ( ) RBIs?

Coach is looking an official ruling and I'm too busy working (imagine that? :eek:)to look it up in my books.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

I should know better than to help coaches. :confused:

HS... with our run rule here in MN, at least one run scores. After that, http://forums.s2kca.com/images/smilies/bolt.gif

;)

That is pretty much the question. Do the extra runs count or not?

Using the vast knowledge of scoring I have gathered over the years attending MLB games and trying not to listen to the "expert" commentary on TV, my answer would be no... game ending multiple runs are only counted beyond those necessary to win on home runs. As to the stats for the batter, http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sc...smiley-001.gif.

But, count be as a disinterested http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sc...smiley-015.gif Joe Morgan disciple on scoring... ;)

I just looked at the official NCAA scoring rules. In a game ending situation, scoring stops as soon as the winning run crosses the plate. If a tie game with bases loaded and the runner hit a triple, the game would end as soon as the runner from third crossed the plate, and the batter is only credited with a single since that is all that was needed to score the winning run.

The only time the batter is credited with more is in the event of a home run, then they are credited with all runs scored and the HR.

Correct.

If the NCAA scoring manual doesn't say credit all awarded bases (like a book rule double), it probably means to and people probably do it that way anyway.
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If the NCAA scoring manual doesn't say credit all awarded bases (like a book rule double), it probably means to and people probably do it that way anyway.


Not necessarily. If NCAA follows MLB, then only awards due to home runs (four-base awards) score runs beyond the winning run. A two-base award on a ball that bounces over the fence, or on an errant throw, would score only the winning run and no more.

Long ago, MLB rules counted only the winning run even on a home run over the fence. However, I don't think there were any such instances before they changed the rule to what it is today. (Exactly when that rule change was made, I don't know, but it's undoubtedly on the web somewhere.)

Yow—when I made that post, I thought I was on the baseball site. Anyway, I suspect NCAA softball follows MLB. I never looked up ASA to see how they handle it.

My understanding is that an "out of park" home run scores everyone; even if more than thoe required to end the game. A ground rule two base award scores runners on 2nd & 3rd; again, even if the winning run was on 3rd.

Hits that are NOT awards can only score the end of game run. By the way, the ONLY NCAA rule is 8 after 5 (or 6), 1 after 7. Even if they agree on something else.

I feel obligated to give official umpire response. I've been offering this response to this type of question for more than 40 years and it works for me. :cool:

"I don't care".

Blue, was that a hit?
Blue, did all those runs score?
How many were earned runs?
Blue, was that a RBI for #14?
Blue, was that ball the right fielder caught fair or foul?

I can appreciate the question and since the scoring section is in the rule book, folks think that maybe we should study it, but as an umpire, "I don't care". :D

Okay, I've had my fun. Carry on! ;)

In our neighborhood, where the RR is 15, that would be a moot point...