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DeRef Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:27pm

Strike or Not!!
 
NFHS Rules

B1 batting with no outs and 3-2 count. B1 is a slap hitter who simply runs forward in the batters box holding the bat in the strike zone without moving the bat toward the ball.

Is this an attempted bunt (ie. a strike) under the newly revised 2-8-2 definition?

Dutch Alex Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:36pm

Isn't the bat moving forewards to the ball coused by the movement by the batter?
If yes, call the strike! If no, let me see how she can extend her arms. Must be a kind of telescopic-construction...;)

Dakota Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:39pm

If the bat is not swinging, it is a bunt attempt.

IRISHMAFIA Sat Apr 04, 2009 01:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 594085)
If the bat is not swinging, it is a bunt attempt.

Don't believe that was the point being asked. I think it is more of, "is it a strike because the batter did not pull the bat back (NFHS)?"

JEL Sat Apr 04, 2009 04:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeRef (Post 594082)
NFHS Rules

B1 batting with no outs and 3-2 count. B1 is a slap hitter who simply runs forward in the batters box holding the bat in the strike zone without moving the bat toward the ball.

Is this an attempted bunt (ie. a strike) under the newly revised 2-8-2 definition?

Wouldn't that action fall under 2-8-3?

It's your judgement.

DeRef Sat Apr 04, 2009 05:07pm

It is a STRIKE!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JEL (Post 594096)
Wouldn't that action fall under 2-8-3?

It's your judgement.

Well, that's my point. By the way 2-8-2 is worded, holding the bat in the strike zone and not pulling the bat back makes it a strike. 2-8-3 states "A drag bunt is attempting to bunt the ball by running forward in the batter's box, carrying the bat with her." As this states "attempting to bunt the ball" and the fact that she did not pull the bat back makes this a bunt attempt and therefore a strike. The fact that she was running forward makes no difference.

Now, in the OP the bat is moving forward in the strike zone in an attempt to slap hit or drag bunt depending on the action of the bat. I have heard of several coaches complaining (now there is a shocker) that it was not a strike because she was not swinging or bunting, but simply running forward with the bat. To me, its a no-brainer that this is a strike.

umpharp Sat Apr 04, 2009 08:31pm

I have a strike!

With the rule change, the bat needs to be pulled back to take the pitch.

She doesn't have to attempt at the ball anymore for it to be a strike, the bat just has to be there. So in the case of the OP, put a K in the book.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Apr 04, 2009 09:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeRef (Post 594082)
NFHS Rules

B1 batting with no outs and 3-2 count. B1 is a slap hitter who simply runs forward in the batters box holding the bat in the strike zone without moving the bat toward the ball.

Is this an attempted bunt (ie. a strike) under the newly revised 2-8-2 definition?

The play as described would be an attempt to hit the pitch. Strike!

JefferMC Sun Apr 05, 2009 07:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpharp (Post 594122)
So in the case of the OP, put a K in the book.

Be careful... someone on here might accuse you of giving score keeping advice. :rolleyes:

CecilOne Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:16am

Alex and Michael have it correct, unless "runs forward in the batters box holding the bat in the strike zone without moving the bat toward the ball" is possible. In that case, give her the athlete of the year award.
The new bunt definitions have nothing to do with a bat moving toward the ball.

wadeintothem Tue Apr 07, 2009 08:28am

This sounds to me like a drag bunt and its a strike all day.

If I were a score keeper I have a K, two bites off a hot dog, and a sip of slurpie.


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