I agree. Personally...I would've dumped this coach.

brown-noser :eek:

Yes, brown from the kissing the mud :D

Yeah, I could have dumped him. I didnt want to start off the season with having to explain an ejection plus I'm trying to work on that for a few years now. I'm in A - coach in the dugout and suddenly hes gone? I already know the look I would get trying to explain it, hell I kind of got it just explaining away the coaches lie that he was talking about his own wife when I got ticked. He didnt pull any more crap the rest of the game. My partner was aware he was gone if I heard anymore from him and there would have been no hesitation or 2nd warning. I think if he had breathed the wrong way my partner would have tossed him. His ice was very thin from then on.

I'm gonna bring it up at the board meeting that we need to make sure our umpires, especially our new ones, are not taking abuse from this organization. Several of the coaches (btw a few of the coaches some of you know because they post on ezteamz and heybucket but not this one as far as I know) can be a little on the rough side and we need to make sure that the support is there when these coaches are handled.

This is a problem I have with what is going on in Minnesota. Almost ALL of our games are one umpire. When we put a 'green' umpire on the field - by themself - who is going to be there to help them figure out when enough is enough or when and how to 'handle' coaches. Then, when the line has been crossed, how to deal with it and maintain control and composure.

It's not just ejections. IP's, OBS, INT, etc. Calls where they are going to get flack from someone that they don't make because it might be 'easier' to not make them.

It is a big problem here.

My association is discussing to put in a mentoring program next year. A mentor will have at least 5 years and board approved. The mentor will receive 1/3rd of the game fee. The mentor will evaluate and work with the new umpire for at least four games. The mentor will discuss items that need improvement during, in-between and after the final game.

My association has 20 new umpires. We have completed 5 weeks of ball. 4 new umpires have been asked never to come back to certain leagues due to attitude, game management, and skills.

I had a suggestion to start a mentoring program in our local association. It never really got past the association president, even though I did mention it to the UIC. How are you approaching the mentoring program?

If I live :eek:, I will own his home, wife (he can keep the children) and his cajones will be in a jar on the mantel over the fireplace :cool:

Ummm... Yeah, if that ever happens, and I'm ever in Delaware, I'm not eating at your house.

Where's the "vomit" smiley?

Another arrow in the quiver. I'm stealing it too. :cool:

Sometimes you have to remember you are an association. Yes, the President typically does a lot of work behind the Scenes, and should be thanked. However, sometimes they think their word is god and forget that the association has by-laws. Have the player rep (member-at-large) propose it to the group and vote on putting a program together.

Actually, when I meant our local association, I should have mentioned it was a corporation that runs the softball program for the city. The president is the owner of this corporation who has an advisory board, yadda yadda yadda. The umpires do have an advisory board that advises the main advisory board, yadda yadda yadda. You can see where I'm going with this.

It was just this year that our UIC's idea of having just 3 hours of clinic time for veterans with over 3 years of experience as opposed to the full 6 hours that we had been subjected to actually enacted, only because I had emailed the president myself. I went at it not from the perspective as an umpire, but as an educator, and lo and behold, my UIC was practically thanking as if I was the only one who could put the president over the hump on this.

Maybe I need to yak more with the UIC and the president, and get my nose a little brown, and just maybe, just maybe the mentoring thing will fly.

first off, i never really want too bait any coach, that said, i had the plate, high school game, we have R1, going on pitch, F2 throws the ball into center field. R1 thinks about third, F8 throws behind her, bang bang play. BU comes up with a very strong safe, he was in great position, saw it, called it. D coach goes running out, says his peace and heads back to the dugout. i put the ball back in play and this guy keeps going on and on about that play, now i KNOW he is talking too his ***. coach and i also KNOW he wants me too hear it, comes back with the i can talk to my ***. coach however i want. i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him, he stops. now the fun part, after the inning i call my partner over, stand on the first base line and in front of his dugout. i tell BU he was in great position, good call, then say, you believe this guy, from 120 feet he can see that play better than you. here he comes, he's ranting about me talking about him, i looked straight at him, said, coach just talking too my partner here, he stops, thinks for a moment, says point made, went quietly back in his hole, and yes, i would have dumped him.

steve

"i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him"
To me it sounds like you warned him twice.

Gone. I can't imagine anyone not finding this completely inappropriate and if they didn't, I wouldn't want to work for them.