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If memory serves me correctly, the NCAA issue came up due to it occurring a game (shocker).

But there was one small difference between the game situation and the original post. In the game, it was a game ending bases loaded walk where runners reached their base and began the game winning celebration by rounding thier bag and heading for home. A headsy defense tagged one of the runners prior to the run scoring and hence the question.

The NCAA interpretation started with this scenario, where the game is over when the run scores and whether or not the other runners were still in jeopardy. Agree or disagree, the NCAA determined that they did not want to interject themselves in this situation and, in their mind, over officiate the situation. Then, in lieu of consistency, they applied that to the op situation where the run still counts and the inning ending out is recorded.
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 01:46pm
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Want to be picky? Where does it state anywhere that a player must run to 1B, 2B, 3B & home, in that order
In NFHS it is in rule 8-1-1 and 9-1-1.

In NCAA it is 12.29
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 02:36pm
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Why is this hard to comprehend?

Pretend the colored base wasn't there. If the ball hit the corner of the white base or bounded over it, you'd call a fair ball, right? Why does it matter if there's some safety bag there? It doesn't.

Rulebook right, ballfield wrong. Don't let it be you.
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 02:39pm
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Why is this hard to comprehend?

Pretend the colored base wasn't there. If the ball hit the corner of the white base or bounded over it, you'd call a fair ball, right? Why does it matter if there's some safety bag there? It doesn't.

Rulebook right, ballfield wrong. Don't let it be you.
He is just saying that the rule book doesn't word it the way we all understand it and enforce it. He gets the rule. Just doesn't like the wording.
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 02:44pm
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In NFHS it is in rule 8-1-1 and 9-1-1.

In NCAA it is 12.29
And if ASA would just add the words "in the order listed" to 5.5.A.1, they would have it covered as well.
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 03:55pm
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And if ASA would just add the words "in the order listed" to 5.5.A.1, they would have it covered as well.
Yes, it is that simple. Apparently, it is believed that ASA umpires are intelligent enough to know better
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This straight from the NCAA Umpires exam. Run scores.
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