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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 08:40am
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Runner on 2B. Ball is hit to the shallow right field.

R1 misses 3B enroute to the plate, but realizes he will be put out and reverses direction. While attempting to return to 3B, R1 is obstructed and tagged out by F5.

Defense immediately appeals the runner missing 3B.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 09:04am
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Well...since runners should be given an opportunity to complete their base running responsibilities, I guess we should hesistate to see what the runner does before awarding the base we thought they would have attained had the OBS not occurred. If they return to third, assume the retouch and then make your award (which for me would probably be the base they are currently standing on.) If they get up and scurry home, then honor the appeal.

I know with you there is a catch somewhere, so I will patiently wait and see what other answers are given.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 01:20pm
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Under rule supplement 36 the umpire will need to judge whether the runner committed another violation and that violation is being played upon.

The example given in the rule supplement is as follows:

A runner leaving second base too soon on a fly ball is returning after the ball is caught and is obstructed between second and thrid base. If the runner would not have made it back to second base prior to the throw arriving, the runner remains out.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 01:59pm
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In the OP, the appeal came after the tag out. While not stated very clearly, the tag was apparently just a tag, not a live ball appeal.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 05:21pm
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Obstruction

Once an obstructed runner is played on and put out the ball is dead.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 05:44pm
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In the OP, the appeal came after the tag out. While not stated very clearly, the tag was apparently just a tag, not a live ball appeal.
Get new glasses and take the events in order offered
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2009, 07:19pm
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Get new glasses and take the events in order offered
OK, but I guess I need something besides new glasses...
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(1)R1 misses 3B enroute to the plate,
(2)but realizes he will be put out
(3)and reverses direction.
(4)While attempting to return to 3B, R1 is obstructed
(5)and tagged out by F5.
(6)Defense immediately appeals the runner missing 3B.
What in there implies the tag was a live ball appeal?
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Old Sun Feb 08, 2009, 11:05pm
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Runner on 2B. Ball is hit to the shallow right field.

R1 misses 3B enroute to the plate, but realizes he will be put out and reverses direction. While attempting to return to 3B, R1 is obstructed and tagged out by F5.
DEAD BALL! Since the umpire has killed the play, all runners should be given the opportunity to complete their baserunning responsibilities, then make the appropriate awards.

In this case, I think it is obvious the runner was obstructed returning to 3B, so the award would most likely be 3B.

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Defense immediately appeals the runner missing 3B.
The appeal should not be accepted until the runner completes their running responsibilities. Since R1 is now standing on 3B, the appeal is not upheld.

Also, B2 would be awarded any bases the umpire believes the BR/R would have reached had there been no OBS.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2009, 09:20am
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DEAD BALL! Since the umpire has killed the play, all runners should be given the opportunity to complete their baserunning responsibilities, then make the appropriate awards.

In this case, I think it is obvious the runner was obstructed returning to 3B, so the award would most likely be 3B.



The appeal should not be accepted until the runner completes their running responsibilities. Since R1 is now standing on 3B, the appeal is not upheld.

Also, B2 would be awarded any bases the umpire believes the BR/R would have reached had there been no OBS.
Wow! For once there was no catch to the question!
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