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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 01:29pm
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(ASA) No penalty at all for an unreported pinch runner?

Hi, all --

I'm a new ASA umpire, going into my second season, and I'm thinking about how to handle one of the recently passed ASA rule changes:

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Rule 4 Section 6 C 1: Removes the penalty of disqualification from the Substitution Rule.

Comment: This only removes the disqualification portion of the rule, the balance of the penalties still apply. The unreported substitute is now in the game and all rules regarding reentry still apply.

I like this rule change, but I'm wondering if it leads to a situation in which a coach doesn't have to worry about reporting substitutes for pinch runners.

Previously, if a coach threw someone on base to run for someone without reporting the sub, and assuming that it was an eligible substitute (for example, somone on the substitute list who hasn't yet been entered into the game), and a pitch was thrown and then it was discovered, that player was disqualified and removed from the base (because of the DQ), with the coach having to replace her with an eligible player.

Now that the disqualification penalty is removed in 2009: after a pitch is thrown, if it is brought to the umpire's attention, I assume(?) the player is not removed from the base because she is not DQed. Instead, I assume the offending coach is made to report that player as a sub, and also the player is considered to have entered the game (i.e. she is no longer available to be subbed somewhere else in the lineup).

It's almost as if it didn't matter that Coach failed to inform Blue prior to putting the player on base, because the outcome is the same. Irish or anyone else on the inside -- do you know if any penalty will be written in Rule 4 Section 6 for an unreported pinch runner?

Thanks,

Scott
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 06:07pm
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No direct penalty is currently available for an unreported sub after a pitch is thrown. You legalize the substitution and announce the sub when it happens. There is a penalty for an unreported batter if appealed before the next pitch, or for an unreported defensive sub making a play if appealed before the next pitch.

I say direct penalty, because I would consider a matter of game management to address the head coach that all subs must be reported into the game, and that I would consider it a matter of intentional unsportsmanlike conduct by the head coach if he/she continued to enter unreported subs. I think we all know the penalty for an intentional unsportsmanlike act.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 02:04pm
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...I would consider it a matter of intentional unsportsmanlike conduct by the head coach if he/she continued to enter unreported subs. I think we all know the penalty for an intentional unsportsmanlike act.
Thanks, Steve. That makes sense.

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