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tcannizzo Sun Nov 16, 2008 05:55pm
B-R turn at 1B
 
What are the keys that you look for on a B-R who runs through 1B, stops quickly and turns towards the ball, but does not appear to advance towards 2B? Or if you prefer, what constitutes the appearance of advancing towards 2B?

NCASAUmp Sun Nov 16, 2008 05:57pm
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Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 551030)
What are the keys that you look for on a B-R who runs through 1B, stops quickly and turns towards the ball, but does not appear to advance towards 2B? Or if you prefer, what constitutes the appearance of advancing towards 2B?
This is completely umpire's judgment, and I doubt you'll get a consistent answer. I look for one or more steps in the direction of 2B, with clear body language indicating that they are attempting to advance.

Quick "stutter-steps" do not, in my opinion, indicate that they are attempting to advance.

Dholloway1962 Sun Nov 16, 2008 06:00pm
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 551032)
This is completely umpire's judgment
Agreed.

Also I am not quite sure what you mean in the OP by turning towards the ball?

IRISHMAFIA Sun Nov 16, 2008 06:18pm
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Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 551030)
What are the keys that you look for on a B-R who runs through 1B, stops quickly and turns towards the ball, but does not appear to advance towards 2B? Or if you prefer, what constitutes the appearance of advancing towards 2B?
Well, that would depend on where the ball is. If it isnt' in the pitcher's hands while in the circle, it is nothing.

tcannizzo Sun Nov 16, 2008 08:05pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 551041)
Well, that would depend on where the ball is. If it isnt' in the pitcher's hands while in the circle, it is nothing.
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Well, what if F3 has the ball after BR is safe? You would have "something"...

IRISHMAFIA Sun Nov 16, 2008 08:49pm
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Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 551053)
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Well, what if F3 has the ball after BR is safe? You would have "something"...
Yes. I would "have" to keep an eye out for a possible play.

youngump Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp (Post 551032)
This is completely umpire's judgment, and I doubt you'll get a consistent answer. I look for one or more steps in the direction of 2B, with clear body language indicating that they are attempting to advance.

Quick "stutter-steps" do not, in my opinion, indicate that they are attempting to advance.
I just let my instinct take over. If I would have reached out to tag them, they better get back to a base without being tagged.
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