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NCASAUmp Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:01am

ASA Senior SP Courtesy Runners
 
Question for everyone... Two outs. Player #1 goes in as a courtesy runner for player #2. Player #3 steps up, hits, and #1 scores. Player #1 goes to coach at 1B. Player #4 steps up and gets a single. Player #1 then takes player #4's place on 1B. Player #5 hits a single, player #3 scores, and player #1 goes all the way to 3B. Before the next pitch, the defensive manager asks if player #1 already was a courtesy runner for someone else.

What have you got?

AtlUmpSteve Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:19am

I have a plate umpire that didn't effectively maintain his lineup, that should have refused the 2nd courtesy runner usage by the same player.

I also have 2 runs scored, and now, with the appeal, #1 out as a duplicate courtesy runner in the same inning. There is no rule that goes any further, so all you have is the out when appealed, and you do not nullify the prior play.

NCASAUmp Fri Nov 07, 2008 04:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 548994)
I have a plate umpire that didn't effectively maintain his lineup, that should have refused the 2nd courtesy runner usage by the same player.

I also have 2 runs scored, and now, with the appeal, #1 out as a duplicate courtesy runner in the same inning. There is no rule that goes any further, so all you have is the out when appealed, and you do not nullify the prior play.

Well, sorta... #1 swapped places with #4 when I had my back turned. I didn't notice it until after he already made it to 3B.

AtlUmpSteve Fri Nov 07, 2008 09:47pm

Then, if this is tournament play, you also have an unreported sub, since courtesy runners must be reported. In THAT case, you also have a disqualification, in addition to the out.


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