Help with a play
 

A runner was rounding second base when she was ran into by or ran into the field umpire. She scrambled safely back into second base. When the ball was dead the crew awarded the runner third base, where they judged she would have been if not for the collision. The offensive coach argued for awarding the runner home as he said he was already waving her in and she would have scored easily. The defense argued she went back to second and that is where she should stay.

Which of the three are right?


This is FED rules

The defense. There is no such thing as umpire obstruction. The ball remains live and all play stands.

It's weird to see this post from MO. When I read it, I thought we were at the same park since this past weekend a crew in CA had this same play and same wrong ruling, calling it umpire INT... with the exception the runner was put to 2nd (tripped over ump between 2&3 I think...)

The runner ran into a part of the field. She got back to 2B safely. Does that clear things up? :)

or.. a part of the field ran into the player and she made it safely back to 2nd

This play brings to mind one of my favorite sayings....

Umpires are like dirt....just part of the field! :D

We need a play of an umpire shouldering into a runner...

Like that football ref taking out that HB

That dirt can sure lay a hit on someone.. :D

I weigh 210-215, and I once bowled over a runner who weighs about 60 lbs less than me. He stopped and ran one way, I thought he continued that way, but he stopped again and ran right into me.

Leveled him right onto his back!

yeah but ya gotta put some shoulder into it! :D

Didn't need to. I hardly stumbled. ;)

about 8 years ago I got bowled over by a 250 pounder, I weigh 195 - 200. I was PU in a 2 ump system, ( men's beer league, semi fastball) R1 was on first, base hit to right feild. R1 rounded 2nd heading for 3rd, I had been in a holding position 20 ft or so down 3rd base line waiting for play to develop when I realized I had play at 3rd I came down to make the call at 3rd. It's a real tight compact feild, about 10 ft between fence and base line so not much room. The throw comes in from F9, F1 desides to cut off throw and get B1 after he rounded 1st, the throw deflected off of F1 gloves into left feild.
R1 who was just a chugging along was watching the play develop, if you can imagine, big round turn from 2nd, looking over his shoulder at the play and as the ball got deflected, twisted around more then heading for home plate missing 3rd by a good 3 ft on the inside of the diamond, much to my chagrin. When I saw the ball get defflected I took 2 steps towards the inside to give the runner a clear path home, so I thought. I had been watching the ball, R1 and the position of F5 so I momentarily lost R1 as big as he was. :eek:
He went right over me and of course with the ump getting bowled over everbody is laughing, even the defense. No one appealed the missed bag until 2 pitches later, which as you all know is too late.

Unless it is verbal. If there are 2 outs and I say "that's three" then a runner leaves the base and is tagged out, I put him/her back and adjust my counter / head.