under fence base award

[shipwreck]

We played our HS State tournament these past 3 days. Here is a question. We were using fields with collapsible portable fences. There was some gap under different places of the fences. Nobody on base. A fly ball was hit to the outfield, the fielder ran to the fence to try to catch the ball. The ball deflected off her glove and went under the fence. Is this a 2 base award from TOP just like it had never hit her glove, or is it a 2 base award from the time it happened? The batter/runner wasn't to first when this took place but in certain situations it could come into effect if you rule on when it happened instead of TOP. It was a hit ball so I think it should be from TOP. By the way, I got the assignment of PU on our second highest class for the championship game. We worked 3 man for the entire tourney and it was a blast. Dave

[MNBlue]

From your description, I would have an uncontrolled, fair, batted ball that went into dead ball territory. Two base award from TOP.

[WestMichBlue]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

The ball deflected off her glove and went under the fence.

That particular situation is not covered by the NFHS book (nor ASA). A close rule is 8.4-3h (ASA 8.5-i): a fair batted ball deflects off a defensive player and goes out of bounds in foul territory. Dead ball, runners advance 2 bases TOP.

If I had the call I would use the "intent" of that rule and apply it to your OP. (Invoke the "god" rule 10.2-3g)

WMB

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by WestMichBlue

That particular situation is not covered by the NFHS book (nor ASA). A close rule is 8.4-3h (ASA 8.5-i): a fair batted ball deflects off a defensive player and goes out of bounds in foul territory. Dead ball, runners advance 2 bases TOP.

If I had the call I would use the "intent" of that rule and apply it to your OP. (Invoke the "god" rule 10.2-3g)

WMB

There is a rule change proposed to correct this situation for ASA this year.

[3afan]

a HS state tournament on a field with a collapsible portable fence?

strange .... what state?

[shipwreck]

Nebraska

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by 3afan

a HS state tournament on a field with a collapsible portable fence?

strange .... what state?

Why is it strange? Better than many HS fields in my area where there is no fence.

[Dholloway1962]

We just did our State Tournaments here in Oklahoma. We are lucky, we get to play ours at Hall of Fame Stadium. There's a certain mystic about calling on the main stadium field!!!

I was selected for 1B for the 5A Final.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by 3afan

a HS state tournament on a field with a collapsible portable fence?

strange .... what state?

Up here in WA too for most of our state tournament games. Nothing wrong with that...heck, we are just happy it isn't raining!

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Up here in WA too for most of our state tournament games. Nothing wrong with that...heck, we are just happy it isn't raining!

Strange...down here all but one of my regular season schools had a permanent fence.

We have the state championship games at OSU, which, as you might guess, has a fence (Games before the finals are played at the individual schools).

As far as rain, this last season was easily the worst in a decade from what I hear. We were lucky enough not to have any playoff games rained out.

[topper]

Originally Posted by 3afan

a HS state tournament on a field with a collapsible portable fence?

strange .... what state?

If it's good enough for the WCWS and DII Championship, it should be good enough for HS.