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DaveASA/FED Tue Oct 14, 2008 09:41am

Whose on first?
 
Reading another post on another board and the whole naming difference came up again. We call R1 the lead runner, they call the runner on first R1.

I have to ask, does anyone know why softball has the R1=lead runner naming? As much of a softball guy as I am I hate to say it...but the other naming really is much more descriptive, by saying R2 you know they are on 2nd base as the play starts, where our R2 has to be spelled out if they were on 2nd or 1st. Wierd we make it actually harder on ourselves

Anyone know the history??

Al Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:21am

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Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED (Post 543026)
Reading another post on another board and the whole naming difference came up again. We call R1 the lead runner, they call the runner on first R1.

I have to ask, does anyone know why softball has the R1=lead runner naming? As much of a softball guy as I am I hate to say it...but the other naming really is much more descriptive, by saying R2 you know they are on 2nd base as the play starts, where our R2 has to be spelled out if they were on 2nd or 1st. Wierd we make it actually harder on ourselves

Anyone know the history??


Maybe we should have a new universal rule such as......"Who" is on first, "What" is on second, and "I don't know" is on third. :)

IRISHMAFIA Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED (Post 543026)
Reading another post on another board and the whole naming difference came up again. We call R1 the lead runner, they call the runner on first R1.

I have to ask, does anyone know why softball has the R1=lead runner naming? As much of a softball guy as I am I hate to say it...but the other naming really is much more descriptive, by saying R2 you know they are on 2nd base as the play starts, where our R2 has to be spelled out if they were on 2nd or 1st. Wierd we make it actually harder on ourselves

Anyone know the history??

Don't know the history, but I think the softball way is much easier. R1 will always be R1 all the way through a half inning. This allows a multi-option scenario especially for a BOO discussion. With baseball, R1 could be R3 from the time the wrong batter steps into the box and the end of the play. Now, that would be confusing. ;)

JefferMC Tue Oct 14, 2008 01:17pm

I have to agree that the softball convention is much clearer on multi-play scenarios. The baseball way has perceived greater simplicity until you try to describe anything over a single play if the baserunner moves.

I expect congress to mandate that all diamond sports must use the baseball method due to this perception. It's how they do everything else.

bluezebra Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED (Post 543026)
Reading another post on another board and the whole naming difference came up again. We call R1 the lead runner, they call the runner on first R1.

I have to ask, does anyone know why softball has the R1=lead runner naming? As much of a softball guy as I am I hate to say it...but the other naming really is much more descriptive, by saying R2 you know they are on 2nd base as the play starts, where our R2 has to be spelled out if they were on 2nd or 1st. Wierd we make it actually harder on ourselves

Anyone know the history??

WHOSE - possessive. ie: Whose bat is that?
WHO'S - who is. ie: Who's on first?

And as a point of information, there, their, they're; to, too, two, etc., are NOT interchangeable.

By the way, referring to the runner on 1B as R1, runner on 2B as R2, on 3B as R3, automatically give position(s) of runner(s) without having to explain, such as R1 is on 3B, etc., make more sense to me.

Bob

Dakota Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:34pm

Bob, you must of gone to school! ;)

NCASAUmp Wed Oct 15, 2008 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 543322)
Bob, you must of gone to school! ;)

Nah, he figured out that one on accident. :D

Skahtboi Wed Oct 15, 2008 04:44pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 543322)
Bob, you must of gone to school! ;)

One of my pet peeves!!!!! :mad:

Welpe Wed Oct 15, 2008 05:33pm

What's that? Using "must of" instead of "must have" or going to school?

Skahtboi Wed Oct 15, 2008 08:16pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 543381)
What's that? Using "must of" instead of "must have" or going to school?


Yup. Anytime someone uses "of" instead of the contracted version of the word plus have, as in "could of" for "could've."

Dakota Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:35pm

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Originally Posted by skahtboi (Post 543368)
one of my pet peeves!!!!! :mad:

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Stu Clary Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:21pm

Smilies are my pet peeves.

Skahtboi Thu Oct 16, 2008 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by Stu Clary (Post 543537)
Smilies are my pet peeves.


:eek:

DaveASA/FED Thu Oct 16, 2008 01:36pm

Ok, OK I'm an Engineer give me a break....good at math and science, cheated my way through english classes.....

NCASAUmp Thu Oct 16, 2008 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED (Post 543559)
Ok, OK I'm an Engineer give me a break....good at math and science, cheated my way through english classes.....

What was her name, and how cute was she?


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