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NCASAUmp Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 538834)
We all use them, but, at least in my area, the players and coaches have picked up on the signals and will use that as an argument if the call doesn't go their way. IOW, you may have already contradicted your partner no matter how discreet you believe you may have been.
That's why I try not to give the signal unless I get "the look" from my partner.

And the look goes something like... "uhhhhhhh...."

celebur Tue Sep 23, 2008 02:02pm
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Originally Posted by bigsig (Post 538783)
Guys, I have had this situation as a BU more than a few times and I can tell you that I have NOT signaled safe when the PU, who has the call, calls it a catch.
I do believe that the people advocating such a safe signal were talking about the PU in this case.

bigsig Tue Sep 23, 2008 02:28pm
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Originally Posted by celebur (Post 538856)
I do believe that the people advocating such a safe signal were talking about the PU in this case.
Please read it again. I don't think so.

Dakota Tue Sep 23, 2008 04:26pm
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Originally Posted by bigsig (Post 538864)
Please read it again. I don't think so.
Where the SAFE signal discussion started...
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Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000 (Post 538624)
....If the PU did not see F4 make the catch, the PU should have immediately signaled no catch. Perhaps even giving the safe mechanic several times to sell the call could have eliminated confusion, ...

bigsig Tue Sep 23, 2008 09:04pm
I stand corrected...thanks!

bluezebra Sat Sep 27, 2008 01:29am
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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 538654)
I disagree with yelling anything but "OUT", if correct of course.

I agree with "giving the safe mechanic several times to sell the call could have eliminated confusion", again if correct.
OUT! Then ball pops out of glove BEFORE possession is established. Now what do you do?

Bob

IRISHMAFIA Sat Sep 27, 2008 09:56am
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Originally Posted by bluezebra (Post 539667)
OUT! Then ball pops out of glove BEFORE possession is established. Now what do you do?

Bob
If you read C-ones's entire post, you would have seen that he specifically stated "if correct of course."

To me, and probably most umpires, that means when the umpire has judged it is in possession of the fielder and an out which, of course, is the correct call.

CecilOne Sat Sep 27, 2008 02:12pm
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Originally Posted by bluezebra (Post 539667)
OUT! Then ball pops out of glove BEFORE possession is established. Now what do you do?

Bob
N/A, I never call an out that quickly. :cool:

If anyone does that, correct the call, very hard sell SAFE, SAFE, SAFE. :eek:

MichaelVA2000 Sun Sep 28, 2008 09:14pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 538755)
Actually, until a couple years ago, the ASA safe sell was "SAFE" w/signal, one step toward the play and repeat. It is still often used by those who have been around a while as it is quite effective.
MichaelVA2000 <---- Old Fart:p


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