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refjef40 Sat May 04, 2002 07:00pm

The other day the subject was dropped third strikes and I just had a situation.J.V. Fed. ball runner on first one out the runner is off on the pitch and like a idiot I forget to loudly annouce that the batter is out on the dropped third strike.So of course the batter takes off and the catcher throws the ball into right field.The runner ends up on third and the batter on second.The batter on second out apologys to both coaches the runner stays at third.Is there anything else to do besides the loud out annoucement?

Steve M Sat May 04, 2002 10:20pm

I'm not sure that even a loud "Batter is out" is appropriate. Just loud enough that the catcher can hear - and that is a courtesy we give the catchers. If the catcher chooses to do a dumb thing & throw the ball into the outfield, that's her choice and her team's consequences. Maybe so for JV's & younger, definitely true for older players - these are ball players and we need to treat them as such. They know the game and the situation, or should.

Steve M

bluezebra Sun May 05, 2002 12:00pm

I always hollered, "BATTER'S OUT! BATTER'S OUT!". If that didn't get the catcher's attention, there's a HUGE problem in staying focused. I will never understand why coaches don't hammer this into their catchers. And why they don't inform the catchers of the situation as soon as there are two strikes on the batter.

Bob

refjef40 Sun May 05, 2002 06:23pm

To Steve,thanks for the input but one more comment if you will.Doesn't the loud annoucement like Bluezebra said make us look better instead of having to stop the game and put the runner into the dugout with the out?Just asking and maybe someone else out there has a opinion.

Steve M Sun May 05, 2002 07:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by refjef40
To Steve,thanks for the input but one more comment if you will.Doesn't the loud annoucement like Bluezebra said make us look better instead of having to stop the game and put the runner into the dugout with the out?Just asking and maybe someone else out there has a opinion.
I think that pretty much depends on the level of play. Maybe that's OK for JV & younger, but not for varsity or older. Remember, they are ball players and we need to treat them as if they know what the game situation is. I don't have any problem pointing to the retired B-R on 1B and saying "Out". That lets the folks know - or it should - that regardless of what the players do, you do know what's going on.

Steve M


gmauriello Sat May 18, 2002 01:02pm

Hope I'm not to late on this subject but announcing a loud batter is out is also for the batters benefit.

I use to play fastpitch and once had an umpire meekly call a 3rd strike and didn't hear him. The pitch was low and outside and since the catcher missed it I thought it was a ball. I didn't hear the ump say strike so I just stood in the batters box thinking it was ball 3. The catcher who did hear the strike call, gets the ball and throws it to first. I'm out.

Elaine "Lady Blue" Mon May 20, 2002 01:00am

I also yell "batter's out" loudly and give the signal. If a base runner is off with the pitch and it's not 3rd out, it is a steal.


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