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Old Tue Sep 02, 2008, 04:01pm
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FP pitch height

I worked a modified game last week where the pitcher threw a change-up. The pitch had a perceptible arc and at the mid-point between pitcher and homeplate was clearly above the batter's head. However, it passed through the strike zone and I rang up the batter on a called third strike.

The offensive coach claimed that the pitch was illegal because it was over a height of 6 feet. I told him that it still passed through the strike zone.

After the game we had some additional, friendly discussion on the call and the coach seemed to think that it was a league bylaw as opposed to an ASA rule.

I looked through the on-line rules that I have, but the only references for pitch height relate to slow pitch.

In this particular league [company intramural level] there aren't many pitchers than are accomplished so many times someone who can just lob the ball in to avoid bases on balls ends up "pitching". In a lot of these cases, these lobs are over the batters' heads. Let's assume the average batter is 6' tall as a reference point. I can't be calling all these pitches illegal.

Does anyone have any specific rememberances of a fast/modified-pitch height limit?

Also, if you have a hint on how I could search for previous posts on this subject. I tried and obviously didn't get what I was looking for.

Thanx all...

Ted
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Old Tue Sep 02, 2008, 04:08pm
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Speaking ASA (or any other rule book I am familiar with...) there are no arc limits for fast pitch or modified pitch. You won't find this specifically addressed in the rules (because it is not an issue). A fast pitch / modified pitch pitcher can pitch with any arc they so desire.

Now, your league rules? That is another matter entirely.
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2008, 09:02am
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Dakota is correct in his interpretation, and you were correct in ringing the batter up. Seems the coach was the only one not quite up to speed!
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2008, 09:57am
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Dakota is correct in his interpretation, and you were correct in ringing the batter up. Seems the coach was the only one not quite up to speed!
This may have been the perfect scenario which would permit an ejection for stupidity.

Well, maybe the second perfect right behind the leader, a coach telling an umpire that "I'm going to talk to the UIC" during an argument on a judgment issue.
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2008, 10:24am
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This may have been the perfect scenario which would permit an ejection for stupidity.

Well, maybe the second perfect right behind the leader, a coach telling an umpire that "I'm going to talk to the UIC" during an argument on a judgment issue.
ROFLMAO
That sounds just a bit familiar.
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2008, 10:27am
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ROFLMAO
That sounds just a bit familiar.
That tournament had some good moments and that was one of them.

That guy gaves us a couple of good stories and I'm riding that horse until I die.
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