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1BHoover! Mon Apr 29, 2002 07:21pm

Can a player be pinch hit or pinch ran for and re-enter the game in their original defensive position? If so, can this be repeated or only once?

shipwreck Mon Apr 29, 2002 07:45pm

Speaking ASA, any player can re-enter once. It used to be only starters but now it is for any players but after they re-enter once, they cannot do that again. We do Fed. ball in the fall and I don't have the new rule book yet but I think it may be the same. Dave

1BHoover! Mon Apr 29, 2002 07:53pm

Much obliged
 
Thanks for the answer back. I thought I was correct, however, the blue and the other team's coach looked at me like I was an idiot.

Steve M Mon Apr 29, 2002 09:36pm

Fed is also the same.

Steve M

Gulf Coast Blue Mon Apr 29, 2002 09:37pm

<b>QUOTE: Can a player be pinch hit or pinch ran for and re-enter the game in their original <font size = 5>defensive </font>position? If so, can this be repeated or only once?</b>

The player must re-enter in their original <b>offensive</b> position........I don't care where they play defense......

And as Shipwreck said.......they can only do it once......and yes FED is the same.

Joel

IRISHMAFIA Mon Apr 29, 2002 10:24pm

Re: Much obliged
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 1BHoover!
Thanks for the answer back. I thought I was correct, however, the blue and the other team's coach looked at me like I was an idiot.
I can understand why. As GCB noted, you asked about defensive positioning and re-entry. One has nothing to do with the other. Any player in the line-up may play any defensive position with the exception of a pitcher who was removed from the position by rule.

Even though a player may re-enter in the defensive half of the inning, the only factor taken into consideration is the location of the re-entry in the offensive line-up.


Gulf Coast Blue Mon Apr 29, 2002 11:46pm

Twice this year I have had coaches come to tell me substitutions and it went something like this.........

"OK blue............I am moving Susie (#9) to right field from first base........and putting Rita (#11) at first........and I am switching my 2nd baseman and moving her to SS and putting in #3 at 2nd..........

So Rita will be hitting in Susie's spot and Susie will be hitting for my Right Fielder........etc., etc. ......

I almost blew a brain vessel attempting to straighten out one of them.............

The coach was CONVINCED he had the sub rule down........and I was trying to explain otherwise........

It was like trying to speak Portuguese to a Spaniard........

In all honesty though........coaches here can go 6 years without ever having to report a sub..........6U through 10U.......

It can be darn confusing to them when they finally have to.............grin

Joel

Dakota Tue Apr 30, 2002 10:23am

Around here, coaches don't typically have to worry about line up / subsitution issues until national qualifiers.

Up until then, most games (not just the young bratter - $0.02 - leagues) are played with bat-the-roster if not required, then coach's choice, and unlimited defensive subsitution.

This means the coaches at tournament time are frantically trying to understand how to do a line up card properly, when to inform the umpire of a substitution, and some brave souls even try to use DP/DEFO.

It makes the tournaments interesting as umpires also have to knock the cob-webs out of the brains for these rules.

1BHoover! Tue Apr 30, 2002 12:26pm

Thanks All
 
Appreciate all the guidance. I will definitely use this correctly now that I have the knowledge. It's sometimes tought to remember how your old coach used to manage. I
really appreciate the help.

Gulf Coast Blue Tue Apr 30, 2002 03:25pm

Yo.......1BHoover.......

Most of us started as players or coaches.......

Glad you took the time to clarify something that was not clear in your mind........

Congratulations!!


Joel

1BHoover! Tue Apr 30, 2002 03:31pm

Still Learning to Manage
 
I've been a player forever it seems like and now I'm doing the coaching as well (since we were not going to have a team at all otherwise)...sure is tough! It was alot easier
to focus on playing 1B without managing a lineup...lol.

I'm out, ya'll take it easy. See ya'll down the road...

IRISHMAFIA Wed May 01, 2002 12:05pm

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Re: your reply to my question, I figured it a given that on a re-entry the player remains in the same batting spot. So you can see why they
looked at me like an idiot...good for you! As
I stated, I applied the rule correctly in the
first place...just didn't ask the question in
the clearest manner. Thanks.


Nothing like a little on the side. I wasn't trying to be an a**. I was just trying to explain why they looked at him like an idiot.




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