What do you have.
 

As F1 starts her pitch, B1 requests time by stepping out of the box or by puttiner her hand up. Time is not granted by the umpire. The pitch is delivered a) out of the strike zone or b) in the strike zone.

What's your call?

Whose rules?

ASA: ball or strike, depending on the pitch.
NFHS: strike

Sorry!
 

NFHS

It better bounce or clank off the backstop to not be a strike.

As an aside, I was told earlier this year that unless there is a real reason, ie. dust in eyes, ball on field, do not call time. Call a strike if the batter takes too long, and a ball if the pitcher does. After initial discussions with the OC, i have not had a problem with batters stepping out in any games.

Then Tom has given you the correct answer.

That's the purpose of this thread
 

I wanted to verify that no matter where the pitch was, ball or strike, we call a strike in this situation. However, you implied you'd call it a ball if it hit the backstop. Why? That's not what the rule says. What should we do if the ball is so far outside the zone, everyone knows it's a ball? Do we call a strike and then call time and explain why it's a strike or give a warning? I'd think we would have to do something to explain why we called so obvious a ball a strike. What happens if it goes over the fence? Also, what happens if the pitch hits the batter? What takes precedence, the HBP or the strike for delaying?

What rule are you quoting? if you say you have to call it a strike... then are you going to call dead ball and a strike....thats the only logical way I can see HAVING to call it a strike. If the batter has been in the box in the required amount of time and decides on their on accord to back out what rule says that you dont call the pitch the way it comes in the zone? The only rule that can apply in that situation is that the batter cannot cause an illegal pitch ..... which would only happen if the pitcher stops the motion. This can be prevented somewhat by denying the batter time and VERBILIZING loud enough to hear "no" or something to that effect.

Rule 7-3-1 Effect 2
 

"If the pitcher stops or hesitates in her delivery as a result of the batter stepping out of the box or holding up her hand to request time, it shall not be an illegal pitch. However, if the batter steps out of the box or holds up her hand to request time and the pitcher legally delivers the ball, it shall be called a strike and the ball remains live."

Recall he is using NFHS rules. By rule (quoted above) it is a strike regardless of where the pitch goes.

NCAA it’s a ball or strike depending on pitch location.
Unless that pitch rolls under the plate or over the backstop, I’m going to have a Steeeerrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiike!!!!!!!

I'm having a hard time visualizing a pitch rolling over the backstop.... ;) :D

You can visualize that senaro won't happen:D which is why that pitch is going to be a Steeeerrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiike!!!!!!!

The sad part is that Michael actually uses that phrasing on every strike he calls, swinging also. :cool:

Been many years since I verbalized a swinging steeeerrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiike!!!!!!!
Perhaps for the PONY Nationals I'll fall inline with the local yokels and yell fooooouuuuuuullllllll ball on anything off the bat that's not fair.:D

Mike, you can go ahead and do that. Remember I am on the 16's now. I am sure I will see what you just described 20 times on day one alone.

Rich

Mike you and I are on the 18's and since were not going to be judged on the manual I was thinking of wearing a ball bag out on the bases.... you think I could hold that new titanium mask in my ball bag between innings? ;)

The mask is supposed to be shipped to YSU and I'm hoping it gets here by Tuesday or Wednesday. If we partner up, it would be an honor for you to be the first to hold my new mask in your ball bag between innings as you trot in from umpiring the bases.. Of course we'll have to cordinate whether we'll both be wearing one or two ball bags and then there's the color issue. I'm there for you though.

well since we wont be going with navy blue pants as the rule book says we "shall" wear .. and we wont be being judged on the manual ... we could each wear one gray and one navy blue... hahah I got both and I know you do too.

I just hope and pray to the softball Gods that you 2 are on my site. I will talk to 'Alice' to make this happen.

oooooo goody are you going to ding me for my navy blue pants???? that I wont be bringing because I dont have enough room in the car.... or just to be a rebel ... you pick... maybe Lima Delta will make the rounds to see me do the GD and say I am lazy or the fair foul catch signal when the ball is close to the line and tell me its not a mechanic so I can let him know where that is in the manual that he took part in writing:D

Last I heard from the softball Gods was that you're on their sh!t list.;)