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TERRY1 Fri Apr 12, 2002 09:29am

NCAA rules, batter hit by batted ball is one foot completely out and one in considered out of box? or must both feet be out of box?

IRISHMAFIA Fri Apr 12, 2002 11:57am

I am pretty sure all bodies are the same. If any part of the batter's foot is completely outside of the batter's box when contacting the ball (with the bat, of course), the batter is ruled out.

I have had people argue that only the batter's toes were touching the ground. The problem was that no other part of the foot was within or touching the lines of the batter's box.


TERRY1 Fri Apr 12, 2002 12:50pm

I agree with that. How about when they are hit by a batted ball? Had this happen yesterday Jr college game batter hits ball it bounces of plate and hits her. I'm BU And PU and I are both call dead ball. Pu calls foul ball in box. coach argues batter had one foot out of box and appeals to me. From behind f4 though to tell at end of 2nd game if foot is out or not but can see rightty batter has not passed hp heading to first. So we go on foul ball. Looking at RB when I got home and it simply says foul ball if in box out if out of box. Should we apply same standards as hitting the ball one foot completly out is out of the box here to?

greymule Fri Apr 12, 2002 03:35pm

I think that if the ball was in the box when it hit the batter, I'd rule it foul regardless of whether a foot was in or out. (I'd agree with Terri1's call on his play where the ball bounced up off the plate and into the batter.) If the ball hit the foot out of the box, or if the batter's first step out of the box was onto the (fair) ball, then I'd call the batter out, even if the other foot was in.

Rachel Fri Apr 12, 2002 10:12pm

If the batter hits the ball and the ball then bounces and hits the batter it is a foul ball if the batter still has one foot in the batters box at the time it hits her.
If the batter hits the ball with one foot on the ground outside the batters box she is out.
They are different.

TERRY1 Sat Apr 13, 2002 07:19am

Rachel, can you tell me the rule box rule and verse you take that from? NCAA ASA

Rachel Sat Apr 13, 2002 09:14am

Terry> This is easily looked up in the rule books.
ASA 7-6-d 1-foulball-f POE #7 NCAA 11-5-9 9-9-1

The difference is when the bat contacts the ball for the 1st time neither foot can be on the ground outside of the box. After the ball has been hit 1X and it comes back to hit the batter, the batter is considered in the box if one foot is still on the ground in the box.

TERRY1 Mon Apr 15, 2002 01:14pm

Rachel,
I looked up rules ref in NCAA book don't have my ASA book with me. I agree that one foot in the bb when "hit" by the batted ball is dead ball foul. Put I still don't find refrence to one foot in one out like you do on hitting the ball with the bat with one foot totaly out of the bbox.

Rachel Tue Apr 16, 2002 08:05pm

The ASA book 7-6-d says: the batter is out if the entire foot is on the ground outside of the box when contacting the ball with the bat. When a slapper runs up the box and contacts the ball with her front foot in the air, thats OK. That's when we hear "atta da box blu". I hope that is what you were asking. Anyone else have an opinion?

TERRY1 Wed Apr 17, 2002 08:02am

What I am ask is batter hit ball while in the box. Then has one foot on ground out of box and the "batted bal hits batter with on foot in one foot out of box. Foul ball or out?

Del-Blue Wed Apr 17, 2002 08:11am

As long as the batter has one foot in the batters box, and the ball hits the batter, you have a foul ball

greymule Wed Apr 17, 2002 12:02pm

Balls hits batter in box, foul ball even if batter has one foot out. What about ball rolls in front of plate, batter's first step is out into fair territory onto the ball, though back foot still in the box? I think that's different. I'd call that an out, but maybe that's a foul, too. Of course, that's batter hits ball, not ball hits batter.


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