Angry Coach
Girls 14U FP
Bottom of 7, scored tied. Runner on 3rd base with two outs. 0-2 count on batter. Pitcher throws her strikeout pitch in the dirt and it gets by the catcher. Ball rolls through a hole in the backstop. What do you rule? |
Walk off ruling
Dead ball -- BR is awarded first base (if pitch is a strike -- called or swinging), runner on third is awarded home. Unless bases not touched (and a proper appeal) then game over.
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.. .while simulataneously collecting my stuff. Its Gatorade time! Bye bye angry coach.. dont care...
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I agree with above......but this question sounds too easy. Wonder what I'm missing or is he trying to make it so easy it gets confusing :confused:
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Doesn't matter what the pitch was (ball or strike - except as it might pertain to a possible appeal at 1B), it is a pitched ball out of play. R1 awarded home and the game is over.
What was the angry coach angry about? |
AND if you think there is any chance at an appeal.. stand by homeplate using "touch the friggin home plate" body language.
Dont leave this one to chance. :D |
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Out of play, dead ball. Runner on 3rd is awarded home, game over.
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Perhaps the groundskeeper's inability to prevent holes under the backstop? |
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You drink Gatorade after a game, and not beer. This explains a lot about you. ;) |
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But, Dakota is right, it may well have been a WP. (For anyone who might actually care, according to OBR, it would be if it hits the dirt before it got to the catcher). Maybe the coach is mad at himself for calling for a drop with an 0-2 count. |
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NFCA Scoring.....
Most fastpitch scorekeepers are generally pointed to the NFCA/ATEC rules for fastpitch scoring. Using that as a reference, rather than OBR, the situation described would be a WP per 'a' below:
"1. A wild pitch is charged to the pitcher when the pitcher throws so high, wide or low that the catcher can not handle the ball with ordinary effort and at least one runner advances. a - Any pitch in the dirt which advances a runner is deemed wild. b - Only one wild pitch is scored regardless of the number of runners who advance or the number of bases advanced. c - A third strike that is not handled by the catcher because it was wild, where the batter makes first base safely, is charged to the pitcher as a strikeout and also as a wild pitch (KWP). d - No wild pitch is scored if a runner was stealing on the release |
Angry coach ruling
Actually, it makes all the differerence in the world as to whether the pitch is a strike or a ball:
1) If a strike, then you have a batter-runner who is awarded !B and they must fulfill their obligation (i.e - proceed to 1B) or they can jeopardize this walk off win w/ a properly made appeal -- regardless of what the runner at third does or does not do 2) If a ball, there is no burden on batter to do anything except not assist the winning runner coming home Either way, the runner on third is awarded home, but in the first case her winning run is conditional upon what the BR does and the defense's response I can visualize IN THIS CASE, if either runner is to be called out on appeal for failure to fulfill obligations, 90% of the time it will be the BR failing to proceed to 1B, not the winning run failing to touch home -- especially if the "winners" are in the first base dugout |
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Geeeeeeezussss |
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I thought we covered that by leaving before they had a chance? |
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