Canada v. USA

[socalumps]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Its always nice when umpires are part of the show. I think its fine for the players to do the auction thing. THe umpires should not have been made part of it.

And the PU's zone was pretty laughable .. and ever changing.

She was there...we wern't!!!!

Easy for you to be critical!!

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by socalumps

She was there...we wern't!!!!

Easy for you to be critical!!

Perception is 99% on televised games.

People watching it know.

Do we want credibility as a sport and as officials of a sport?

Or do we want people in pink with apparently roving strikes zones? As a fan of the sport watching it.. she was not consistent IMO. I think she squeezed at certain times in the game, situationally.

At least she equally pissed off both coaches.. so that was consistent.

[Al]

Originally Posted by socalumps

She was there...we wern't!!!!

Easy for you to be critical!!

Hi socalump,

I thought the umpire at 3rd base handled an unusual situation very well. The sit I'm referring to was where a player advanced to 3rd base while another runner, who was in a rundown between 3rd and home, ended up coming back to 3rd. For a moment both were standing on 3rd. A tag came just after the runner got back to 3rd and the other runner, who didn't belong there, started running back to 2nd. I wish I recorded it because I thought I heard one of the commentators say something to this affect: "The tag didn't get the out because the other runner got off the base before the tag came, if they were both on the base she would have been out on the tag". If that is what she was saying she was wrong because the only one subject to being tagged out would be the player that was not rightfully on the base. ...Al

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by Al

Hi socalump,

I thought the umpire at 3rd base handled an unusual situation very well. The sit I'm referring to was where a player advanced to 3rd base while another runner, who was in a rundown between 3rd and home, ended up coming back to 3rd. For a moment both were standing on 3rd. A tag came just after the runner got back to 3rd and the other runner, who didn't belong there, started running back to 2nd. I wish I recorded it because I thought I heard one of the commentators say something to this affect: "The tag didn't get the out because the other runner got off the base before the tag came, if they were both on the base she would have been out on the tag". If that is what she was saying she was wrong because the only one subject to being tagged out would be the player that was not rightfully on the base. ...Al

ISF-rules 2006-2009

rule 8 sec. 4 d
Two runners may not occupy the same base simultaneously.
EFFECT 8.4d
The runner who first legally occupied the base shall be entitled to it, unless forced to advance. The other runner amy be put out, by being touched with the ball.

The runner who was chased back to 3rd base had legally touched the before the runner from 2nd, and couldn't therefor be tagged out. You're absolutly right!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Al

Hi socalump,

I thought the umpire at 3rd base handled an unusual situation very well. The sit I'm referring to was where a player advanced to 3rd base while another runner, who was in a rundown between 3rd and home, ended up coming back to 3rd. For a moment both were standing on 3rd. A tag came just after the runner got back to 3rd and the other runner, who didn't belong there, started running back to 2nd. I wish I recorded it because I thought I heard one of the commentators say something to this affect: "The tag didn't get the out because the other runner got off the base before the tag came, if they were both on the base she would have been out on the tag". If that is what she was saying she was wrong because the only one subject to being tagged out would be the player that was not rightfully on the base. ...Al

You are correct, one of the TH screwed that up, but what's new.

Personally, I thought there was way too much conversation on the play at 3B especially from a crew of this level. The call was a no-brainer. Candrea really showed his ignorance on this one, also, and that is not the norm for him.

Not impressed with Lapin on the dish. She plays the position like a 14 y/o.