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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 09:54am
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Ever seen the BR run into the 3rd baseman on a bunt up the 1st base line?

I could not believe what I was seeing. 3rd baseman playing 2/3 down the line. Girl squares early to bunt, 3rd baseman crashes to the plate. Bunt goes up
1st base line and BR get a late jump out of the box. 3rd baseman attempting to field bunt is run into by the batter while running to 1st.

I had to shake my head when it happened and then say to myself she is out.

Very strange play that I don't know if I will ever see again.
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Are there more details? Why is she out?
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 10:02am
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Are there more details? Why is she out?
The "3rd baseman attempting to field bunt is run into by the batter" looks like INT to me.
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 10:04am
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Bingo, BR runs into 3rd baseman trying to field the bunt, she is out!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 10:04am
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Are there more details? Why is she out?
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3rd baseman attempting to field bunt is run into by the batter while running to 1st.
What part of this are you missing, Wade?
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 03:53pm
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If the B/R is doing nothing out of the ordinary, exiting the box normally and starting up the 1B line, Im not letting the 3d baseman 'crash' her and getting a cheap out.

Im not saying that's what happened here (not enough detail), but you can't let fielders start tackling B/Rs as they exit the box.
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 04:05pm
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No,but...

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If the B/R is doing nothing out of the ordinary, exiting the box normally and starting up the 1B line, Im not letting the 3d baseman 'crash' her and getting a cheap out.

Im not saying that's what happened here (not enough detail), but you can't let fielders start tackling B/Rs as they exit the box.
I don't need anymore information than what was presented. The 3rd baseman was fielding a bunt. The batter ran into her while in the act of fielding a fair batted ball. OUT! Its not "ordinary" for the runner to run into any defensive player fielding a batted ball. By the way, she didn't exit the box normally. She hesitated. Not that that really matters to me in this case. She still has to avoid F5.
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2008, 08:43pm
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I dont automatically have INT on this play. You have a crashing fielder and a running runner. (presuming F5 was most likely to make the play, thus ruling out OBS).

This very well could be nothing IMO. It could be INT, but it sure as heck could be nothing. This is not automatic.
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Old Tue Jun 24, 2008, 12:53pm
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I don't need anymore information than what was presented. The 3rd baseman was fielding a bunt. The batter ran into her while in the act of fielding a fair batted ball. OUT! Its not "ordinary" for the runner to run into any defensive player fielding a batted ball. By the way, she didn't exit the box normally. She hesitated. Not that that really matters to me in this case. She still has to avoid F5.
Hesitated where? Its not in the OP.

Any other details you want to dribble out as the thread goes on?

I know it's a TWP, but I'm simply contesting the post(s) that there is no example where a BR would not be automatically out for being crashed by F5 (who is fielding a bunt). For discussion purposes, I don't think that is true. IRL, would probably never see it.

Your implication that a) batter weakly bunts and ball dribbles out slightly in front of plate; b) F5 is rushing in to field it, so; c) BR must stand motionless in box to await F5's tag is absurd.

/thread, before any impressionable young umps are led astray by a rules discussion.....
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Old Tue Jun 24, 2008, 08:20am
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I could not believe what I was seeing. 3rd baseman playing 2/3 down the line. Girl squares early to bunt, 3rd baseman crashes to the plate. Bunt goes up
1st base line and BR get a late jump out of the box. 3rd baseman attempting to field bunt is run into by the batter while running to 1st.

I had to shake my head when it happened and then say to myself she is out.

Very strange play that I don't know if I will ever see again.
This is a very strange play indeed. I would have had to witness this myself before I made a ruling.
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Old Tue Jun 24, 2008, 09:55am
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As the original post mentioned, this is indeed a very strange play and highly unlikely that it will be seen again.

That said, I don't see any way that this is not interference on the BR. The bunt is up the first base line, F5 is fielding the bunt, BR runs into F5 going to first.

I know a lot of stuff we bring up here is HTBT, but this is not one of them, IMHO.
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