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bwbuddy Tue Jun 17, 2008 07:31am

NSA 10U Strike Zone
 
Granted, I realize that is is difficult to call strikes in 10U B-level FP, but I witnessed a strike zone this week I had never seen before. Twice, the NSA ump called a strike that actually hit the plate. I heard him tell the coach that since the batter was up in the front of the box that it was actually a strike when it crossed her body.

I had always thought that the ball had to pass completely over the plate, but as a I read the definition straight from the NSA rule book for FP, now I not so sure.

What's the correct practice?

NSA FP definition (emphasis mine):

STRIKE ZONE: The strike zone is that space over any part of
home plate
that is between the batter's armpit and the top of the
batter's knees when the natural batting stance is assumed. Any part
of the ball passing through this strike zone is considered a strike. The
umpire is instructed to determine the batter's strike zone according to
the batter's usual stance when swinging at a pitch.

wadeintothem Tue Jun 17, 2008 07:39am

HMmmm

NSA... 10U... B!!!

I'm thinking.. strike if it moves in the direction of the batter.

mick Tue Jun 17, 2008 07:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwbuddy
Granted, I realize that is is difficult to call strikes in 10U B-level FP, but I witnessed a strike zone this week I had never seen before. Twice, the NSA ump called a strike that actually hit the plate. I heard him tell the coach that since the batter was up in the front of the box that it was actually a strike when it crossed her body.

I had always thought that the ball had to pass completely over the plate, but as a I read the definition straight from the NSA rule book for FP, now I not so sure.

What's the correct practice?

NSA FP definition (emphasis mine):

STRIKE ZONE: The strike zone is that space over any part of
home plate that is between the batter's armpit and the top of the
batter's knees when the natural batting stance is assumed. Any part
of the ball passing through this strike zone is considered a strike. The
umpire is instructed to determine the batter's strike zone according to
the batter's usual stance when swinging at a pitch.

Indeed, the umpire kicked the explanation you overheard, but with that level of ball, it seems quite possible that a pitch could pass through the strike zone and hit the plate (e.g., looping pitch goes through front plane of the cube and the bottom plane of the cube; pitch goes through top plane of cube and bottom plane of cube )

bwbuddy Tue Jun 17, 2008 08:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
Indeed, the umpire kicked the explanation you overheard, but with that level of ball, it seems quite possible that a pitch could pass through the strike zone and hit the plate (e.g., looping pitch goes through front plane of the cube and the bottom plane of the cube; pitch goes through top plane of cube and bottom plane of cube )

Would you be bold enough to call it that way?

robbie Tue Jun 17, 2008 08:46am

Its a bass BY RULE

Rule 7 Section 8 : "The umpire calls a ball: a. For each pitch that does not enter the strike zone, hits the ground or touches home plate, or is not swung at by the batter."

Granted - Not the best wording (par with NSA book), but clearly a ball by rule.

mick Tue Jun 17, 2008 08:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie
Its a bass BY RULE

Rule 7 Section 8 : "The umpire calls a ball: a. For each pitch that does not enter the strike zone, hits the ground or touches home plate, or is not swung at by the batter."

Granted - Not the best wording (par with NSA book), but clearly a ball by rule.

Thanks, robbie. That works for me.:)
What does "bass" mean?

robbie Tue Jun 17, 2008 08:54am

It means I don't type too well - BALL

mick Tue Jun 17, 2008 09:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie
It means I don't type too well - BALL

Okeedokee.
I almost threw a plastic worm in your direction. :)

mick Tue Jun 17, 2008 09:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwbuddy
Would you be bold enough to call it that way?

Haven't yet, thank Goodness! :)

Skahtboi Tue Jun 17, 2008 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie
Its a bass BY RULE


http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat...yellowbass.gif

or did you mean:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbas...bass_table.jpg

IamMatt Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:04am

Sounds like the pitcher has a wicked drop for 10U!

Dakota Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamMatt
Sounds like the pitcher has a wicked drop for 10U!

Yeah, about a 10 foot drop... :rolleyes:

Steve M Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
Thanks, robbie. That works for me.:)
What does "bass" mean?

It means that he is fishin' for strikes.:D

CecilOne Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:25am

"STRIKE ZONE: The strike zone is that space over any part of
home plate
that is between the batter's armpit and the top of the
batter's knees when the natural batting stance is assumed. Any part
of the ball passing through this strike zone is considered a strike. The
umpire is instructed to determine the batter's strike zone according to
the batter's usual stance when swinging at a pitch.
"

Where does this say anything about "when it crossed her body" ?? :o :(

The strike zone is over the plate at a height determinded by the batter's body, not where it crosses the batter (unless standing right next to the plate). :rolleyes:


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