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Dakota Wed Jun 04, 2008 08:38am

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Gosh, your post is a lot of work to decipher the quotes from your response. You might want to edit your vB code. Just sayin'...

Dakota Wed Jun 04, 2008 08:47am

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Man, some of you are real whiners about this whole deal. Who gives a rats *** if they goof up a rule? ...

Web sites where you might find other people who might be interested in your point of view on talking heads in sports ... ;)

Shutupptimmccarver

I Hate Tim McCarver Home Page

FIRE JOE MORGAN

bigsig Wed Jun 04, 2008 09:12am

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Gosh, your post is a lot of work to decipher the quotes from your response. You might want to edit your vB code. Just sayin'...

Thanks, I didn't know that. I'll try it>

wadeintothem Wed Jun 04, 2008 09:48am

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I care for the same reason I believe IPs should be called at this level. When I saw Team USA, there were coaches and parents having their children study the likes of Monica Abbott. Great pitcher, but illegal as hell. Heard one coach tell his team, "see the way she steps up and gets her entire foot in the dirt for traction to push off".

It's pretty much painfully (very painfully) obvious to me that the IP call is not looked upon in a friendly manner... at any level. The token IP call per game.. and thats about it. "Call it early" is code for "Call it with no runners on".. and then leave it be is about how it is wanted to be called IMO.



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I think you are just pissed because this crew is wearing the classic powder over navy and using common, yet very distinctive signals :p

HA!

Oh yeah, did I forget to mention how horribly robotic and uncomfortable the umpire looked in the last game?

He literally could have been replaced by a umpire McRobot painted an ugly light blue over navy.

:D

wadeintothem Wed Jun 04, 2008 09:49am

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Originally Posted by Dakota
Web sites where you might find other people who might be interested in your point of view on talking heads in sports ... ;)

Shutupptimmccarver

I Hate Tim McCarver Home Page

FIRE JOE MORGAN

No way, those little ball guys who exist with their panties in a twist over Tim McCarver can be pretty brutal. They may just hunt me down.

IRISHMAFIA Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:30am

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Irish. Interesting approach. First you say it’s bull, then you agree with most of my points and clearly don’t understand the others. Let’s see: You agree that ESPN is doing this for market share (that’s how they set their rates for advertisers) and you point out that it’s under contract with NCAA & CBS. What’s your point? Does that make it not for $?

I did not agree ESPN is doing this for market share. I state they would try to capture their market share and make a profit, that is business. However, my point is they are going to show it anyway whether or not it is profitable. It is part of the package, just like LL softball. If you want to show the LL Baseball WS, you are going to include the softball side whether you can market it or not.

Yes, they are going to try and make it profitable, that is common sense. However, that is not "why" it is on the air.

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You missed the whole point as to why they have one baseball commentator, their demographic (18-40 year old males) has a greater familiarity with baseball than softball. Instead you go on an irrelevant diatribe about softball not needing baseball, and baseball is somehow responsible for softball being eliminated from the Olympics.
No, I didn't miss the point. You are stating that the purpose of John Kruk in the booth is to draw a young-middle age male market. If that were the point, ESPN would have been advertising it. Did you see any promos declaring John Kruk would be in the booth? There are different opinions and stories concerning Kruk's appearance including him requesting the assignment. Did it add a nice touch? Yeah. Did it improve the quality of the broadcast? When he kept to the pertinent issues like hitter's mechanics, yeah. Did they overuse his baseball connection? I think so, but that is me.

BTW, it was pretty much common knowledge to anyone who wanted to find out that many of the IOC representatives believed softball and baseball were one in the same. Baseball being eliminated was a no brainer for the IOC and their lack of intelligence killed softball in the Olympics. Get rid of that level of ignorance, and Jim Easton's refusal to vote doesn't come into play and the young ladies we watched this past weekend would have been tageting London for 2012. Hence, the need to insure softball's stand-alone status. In this country, the only place were there is a need for baseball is in staffing the men's national teams.

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You totally missed the point about color commentators not always knowing the rules and instead thought my comments were degrading Joe Morgan’s baseball skills?
I simply noted that while Morgan's on-field accomplishments are admirable, it doesn't make him, or any other former player, an announcer.

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You agree that Jenny Finch is the poster child for softball but some guy sitting in the stands bothered you.
Don't know where you were when they handed out a sense of humor, but don't you think it strange that I would know he was from Michigan? If you knew the gentleman to whom I was referring, as some on this board do, you might understand how Bill's expressionless face could sour any picture, even one of Ms. Finch-Daigle and Ace. Maybe this will help :D

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Then you complain that there were no school promos? Other than 8 Director of Admissions who cares?
Why do you think everything one posts is a complaint? I made an observation about what was an NCAA requirement and asked if anyone else had seen a promo. There is an exception for institutional PSA's for ESPN & CSTV which place the burden of PSAs and the cost upon the individual school as opposed to comp time from the contracted broadcaster. CBS is not included in that paragraph.

wadeintothem Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:46am

John Kruk was funny.

Now Dennis Miller on MNF was an abomination.

Kruk was the fat slobby drooler guy checking out the chicks playing baseball with a big yellow ball.... like probably 50% of the people watching the game that night.

Hell, even with that, he knew the game better than many coaches I've known.

celebur Thu Jun 05, 2008 03:55pm

John Kruk was even funnier when played by Chris Farley on SNL.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Jun 05, 2008 04:11pm

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Now Dennis Miller on MNF was an abomination.

The problem with Dennis Miller on MNF is that he is a little more intelligent than Michaels and Fouts and half the audience.

wadeintothem Thu Jun 05, 2008 06:53pm

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The problem with Dennis Miller on MNF is that he is a little more intelligent than Michaels and Fouts and half the audience.

Yeah, so. We dont want smarts ruining a perfectly good game of football.

Skahtboi Fri Jun 06, 2008 09:17am

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a perfectly good game of football.

Now that is an oxymoron if I have ever heard one!


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