Goofy call...
 

It's 16/under girls F/P. The game was fun to watch with the lead going back and forth a few times. Both umpires started the game clowning around with the players, coaches, and fans. For example... at the coin toss tails was called. He showed the coin to the player and said: "sorry, it's heads". The girl who called it said: "Hey that's tails"! "He said: Don't you see the head on that bird"? Then after a close call at 3rd the BU was clowning around with one of the fans who said: "Hey blue, if you think she is safe your eyes must be out of focus". He said: "Well, maybe my left eye; but not my right eye cause that one is made of glass". But all this joking around ended early when both the defensive and offensive head coaches jumped all over both the PU and the BU.


Here's the sit...

One out, girl on 2nd. Count full. Pitch is high and tight to a right handed batter for ball four. Ball gets away from catcher and rolls a few feet up the 3rd base line. Girl on 2nd tries to steel 3rd. BR takes off running for 1st then tosses the bat towards her dug-out on 3rd base side. The bat hits the catchers arm as she is just starting to make her throw to 3rd. The throw is off-line and gets away from the the defense. Runner now tries for home and just beats the tag. She is called safe. The BR advanced to 2nd on the play. Defensive coach wants interference on the BR for hitting his catcher with the tossed bat. PU said there was no intentional interference and the play stands. Coach, not liking this answer, goes storming out to BU. Then PU and offensive coach join in huddled around 3rd base. After what seemed like five minutes the PU sent the girl back to 3rd. :confused: So PU takes away the run. Offensive coach wants to know WHY? Keeps asking them what rule they are going by?

If they decided interference should have been called why didn't they call the BR out and put the girl back on 2nd? If no interference why would they undo the play at the plate? ...Fun at the ole' ball park! ...Al

Is this Utrip?

Speaking ASA

Stop right there, the play is over. Dead ball. BR is out and R1 is returned to 2nd base.

Depends, if this is utrip and a coach will get pissed off, I say go with the Dead ball do over.

Didn't I hear that if it is u-trip, opinions don't count?

Maybe USFA.:D

Yes, it was USSSA. ...Al

Probably a good call then. Alls well that ends well.

You can all knock off the USSSA, etc. put downs until the teams around here return to ASA. :(

Why would we do that? ;)

Hey, hey now.....
 

It's a good thing u-trip umpires have a sense of humor.

That's one thing I've yet to see: A USSSA FP tournament. I just saw an ad for the "State" tournament down near the coast somewhere. Up here is primarily ASA country, with a bit of NSA, ISA and the occasional WFC nibbling at the edges.

see link below

Not a single "FP" in that list. Maybe that tourney wasn't utrip after all.

Helps to click on Fast Pitch on the pull-down menu. Then you get a bunch.

Oops
 

Missed that the first time. There are a lot of them listed. None closer to me than Lexington (where my DD is playing an ISA tournament this weekend).

Hmm, comparison of number of teams listed as entered in each organization's "State" tournament as of today:

It's still early for registering, I would think. Around here, if you don't qualify for ASA National by playing in ASA qualifiers (not sure how that process is structured, as I don't call any ASA), then teams try to qualify for USSSA World Series by finishing 1st or second in a World Series qualifier (just about any USSSA tournament, it seems). We have ASA State in the NW corner of the state (Farmington, 7/11-7/13) and two USSSA State tournaments (one in Albuquerque, 7/11-7/13, one in SE corner of the State (Carlsbad) 7/11-7/13). I guess you can take your pick around here, ASA, USSSA Central NM or USSSA Southern NM. Should be a shortage of umpires that weekend.

And you wondered why the game went downhill? Umpires are there to be professionals and enforce the rules. There's no reason to be talking to the fans and chatter with the players and coaches needs to be minimal too.

Focussing entirely on the game at hand usually eliminates mistakes.

amen

For those that are bashing USSSA, apparently you do not call U-trip and do not have a rulebook. There is almost no difference between USSSA and NFHS books, and thus only minor differences between USSSA and ASA. (Unless you consider the approved bat lists for USSSA a major difference!)

Now, if you are talking USFA - (Please stop snickering!) - their rulebook is a joke. You cannot seriously call a competitive tournament game using just their book. But they know it; they tell their umpires to use their NFHS or ASA experience and knowledge to make the calls.

WMB

Hmmm, I haven't really seen anything in this thread that I would consider bashing U-trip. A couple of lighthearted jokes based around previous comments that seemed to be directed more towards the organization than the rules.

Then again, they are not a softball specific organization.