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NCASAUmp Sun May 18, 2008 09:58pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
Actually, I have been completely villified. The press has fried me, and completely lied in doing so. I'm awaiting a call from my top umpire guy (i"ve been working another tourney)... if he follows suit with everyone else, I or my partner should have found a way not to make the call. According to the press I bumped chests with the coach then walked off the field laughing leaving the girls sprawled on the field crying.

I am livid that that was printed. Al queda not in the news so I get villified like that? There was nothing funning about that situation. I did not so much as crack a smile, in fact, there was nothing to smile about. Me and the coach never touched chest. He didnt bump me, I didnt bump him. They might be getting me back for refusing to talk to them.

You guys may think I made the right call. I actually believe I made the ONLY call I could have made... but thats about it on the home front here. Other than that, I might as well have shot kennedy.

Libel, anyone?

IRISHMAFIA Sun May 18, 2008 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

However, beyond that, if anyone asks you the age-old stupid coach/player/spectator question of, "how can you end the game like that?", simply respond that you didn't end the game, the pitcher did.

Close enough!

"No way to end this game, not on a call like that," Willis said. "I've never seen Courtney called for an illegal pitch. She's a pro."

Then why is she playing HS ball? :D

azbigdawg Sun May 18, 2008 10:49pm

Im sorry, Wade..I had to laugh when I read that line about you leaving the field

Youre just an evil bastid.....

from what you posted here, you made the right call.... and you know how much it pains me to say youre right....:D

wadeintothem Sun May 18, 2008 10:57pm

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Originally Posted by azbigdawg
Im sorry, Wade..I had to laugh when I read that line about you leaving the field

Youre just an evil bastid.....

from what you posted here, you made the right call.... and you know how much it pains me to say youre right....:D

It wasnt a chuckle it was more of a "muhahahahahaha" as I succumbed to the dark side of the force.

Actually, the reality is the call kept me awake that night, and too this very moment there has not been a bright side to it or a funny thing I can think of about it. I think if I had laughed on that field, there would have been a riot. The moment was surreal.

azbigdawg Sun May 18, 2008 11:07pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
It wasnt a chuckle it was more of a "muhahahahahaha" as I succumbed to the dark side of the force.

Actually, the reality is the call kept me awake that night, and too this very moment there has not been a bright side to it or a funny thing I can think of about it. I think if I had laughed on that field, there would have been a riot. The moment was surreal.


I believe the lack of sleep thing..and its only funny because I wasnt there. The ONLY alternative that I could think of was for your partner to step up and say he heard a time out, if he did. YOU didnt, so you did the right thing.

cloverdale Sun May 18, 2008 11:48pm

just a thought
 
first lets be clear...sounds like a great call and i'll echo everyone else and say brass brass brass...thought that comes to mind are you sure that the coach didnt yell that to make F1 stop and get the IP call ? Could you have gotten together with your partner and go with a no pitch...

wadeintothem Sun May 18, 2008 11:57pm

Thats been the consensus of every umpire I've talked to thus far....

At the time I didnt consider it because it wasnt a no-pitch, it was an illegal pitch. I didnt know about the "time" thing until post game. I remember the coach said it, but he a 100 things, including there was no illegal pitch, calling me every name in the book.. and at the time it was not something I considered.

Maybe if the coach had been calm and just talked to me before ranting, I could have calmly got together with my partner.. but that is not what happened.. it was instant chaos and he went crazy, and I tuned him out and decided I was getting out of there before it got worse. It was not like the coach came out and said "blue, the other coach was yelling time, can you get with your partner and see..." .. When I called IP, he ran out of the dugout into my face going "Are you f'n kidding me and you f'n kidding me. That is the worst. You are terrible.. and on and on and on..

Welpe Mon May 19, 2008 12:24am

Wade, I am disheartened to read this written about you. I used to have a quote in my signature that read "What is right, isn't always popular and what is popular, isn't always right." You, the umpire who was good enough to make it to this playoff game, made a good, gutsy call. Hold your head high in knowing you did the right thing.

IRISHMAFIA Mon May 19, 2008 06:38am

#1. Base coach was addressing batter, not the umpire.
#2. Coach can only make request and did so of the wrong party.
#3. DC apparently has a few shortcomings when it comes to an expanded vocabulary.
#4. A properly coached pitcher would know to NEVER stop a delivery once started.
#5. Even if you did have an ear-to-ear grin or laughed, so what? The umpire is there to officiate a game for BOTH teams, not to commisserate over either team's issues, failures or lack of fortune. Anyone who doesn't understand that hasn't the authority to provide comment or opinion on sporting events.

JMO

wadeintothem Mon May 19, 2008 07:59am

I've had this instance..

I've had a team literally sit down on the field and refuse to play for 15 mins until a TD got to the field (she was at another field and had to drive there). The weak sauce irritating PU did not forfeit them, which I would have done.. and in fact asked me if I would just leave so the team would play. That of course, wasnt happening. (FTR: I was BU, Pitcher was stepping back, coach believed it was legal and would not correct the pitcher, after the 2nd or 3rd IP call.. she sat em down right on the field "because I was picking on the girls")

I've had a coach push me and it was so bad it went to hearing with our commish. (FTR: Coach did not believe runners advanced on an IP)

All 3... over illegal pitches.

It cracks me up when I see people at ezteams pretend they want more called.

wadeintothem Mon May 19, 2008 08:15am

At least this article didnt demonize me
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.d...ORTS/805170331

The only glaring error in that one I see in that one is the "umpires" didnt explain anything, an umpire did... .not me.

The other thing, on the HBP, the discussion was also as to whether the batter went (she was slapping when she got hit).

Skahtboi Mon May 19, 2008 09:19am

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem


Not being much of a lawsuit guy myself, I would actually say that here you might want to consider legal action. They cannot print what isn't the truth.

NM FP Ump Mon May 19, 2008 09:43am

Nice call.....
 
Wade,

I concur with everyone on this board. You made the right call!! To the spectators and coaches (and the press): Have the coach explain the rules to them. :eek: :eek: Oh wait, that's how the Recordnet.com reporter got his information (..after a controversial balk call…) :rolleyes:

Steve M Mon May 19, 2008 10:26am

'You guys may think I made the right call. I actually believe I made the ONLY call I could have made... but thats about it on the home front here. Other than that, I might as well have shot kennedy."

Wade,
Yeah, you made the right call - and it was the only one you could have made.
It's not the way you'd choose to see a game end, but I don't think you were given a vote. I've got no problem with the way you said you handled it.

NCASAUmp Mon May 19, 2008 10:31am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Not being much of a lawsuit guy myself, I would actually say that here you might want to consider legal action. They cannot print what isn't the truth.

An umpire's credibility is all he has, and this article thumbs its nose at a fine umpire who made the correct call. Libel would be appropriate, but the news org would simply retract the statement and issue a half-a$$ed apology on page 28, next to the obits.

Jacka$$es, all of them.

You did the right thing, wade. Thank you for sticking to your guns. If you hadn't, you'd have just opened a floodgate for the rest of us.


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