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Gulf Coast Blue Mon Mar 04, 2002 08:49pm

An oldie........but still may be interesting to some.........

I know many of you have seen this before.......so refrain from answering until some of the newer guys have a chance.........

<font color = red>R2 on 2nd with no outs...............large field with an open gate in right field...............

Ball is hit to deep right and the speedy F9 hustles out to make the catch near the open gate.............

Knowing that there is no way with the runner tagging properly she can throw in time to keep her from scoring......and knowing that a runner is only awarded 1 base on a ball carried into DBT............F9 makes the catch and then strolls through the opening in the gate.........effectively keeping R2 from scoring........

What's your call...........</font>






[Edited by Gulf Coast Blue on Mar 4th, 2002 at 07:51 PM]

bluezebra Mon Mar 04, 2002 09:45pm

I know. I know. How much time do I have to give the newbies?

Bob

IRISHMAFIA Mon Mar 04, 2002 10:38pm

For all you good Catholic boys and girls who spent their first eight years in Parochial school...

Ooohhh! Ooohhh! S'ster, ster! I know, I know! S'ster, ster! Ooohhh! Ooohhh!



Don't fret, you publics wouldn't understand.

Dakota Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:00pm

Quote:

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
For all you good Catholic boys and girls who spent their first eight years in Parochial school...

Ooohhh! Ooohhh! S'ster, ster! I know, I know! S'ster, ster! Ooohhh! Ooohhh!



Don't fret, you publics wouldn't understand.

Didn't we cover Horshack not that long ago? Wait - he was Jewish, and in public school.

Just Curious Tue Mar 05, 2002 12:50am

Technical Foul????
 
A technical foul for the leaving the LBT intentionally to gain an advantage.... Award a free kick with lane clear....

How about B1 is out and F9 is charged with obstruction. R1 is given home as the base she could have attained had obstruction not occurred...

oppool Tue Mar 05, 2002 01:37am

Somebody shut the dam gate
 
Just Curious

You lost me on the obstruction part but the outcome is correct. Check out 8-6-K ASA rule


Don

whiskers_ump Tue Mar 05, 2002 08:01am

Joel,

Waited as long as I could, and I may not be right anyway.
In NFHS.
Rule 8-4-3k, I might also consider it unsporting conduct,
unless s/he one great actor...

glen

LIBLUE Tue Mar 05, 2002 09:02am

I don't know the exact rule number but in ASA and USSSA in the umpires judgement if the act was intentional award BR 2 bases.

Joe Kupka Tue Mar 05, 2002 11:13am

In a similar vein, the ASA rule change involving a missed base or a base left too early permits a runner to return to tag up after the ball enters DBT, even if she passed the next base. I assume that is to prevent a heads-up F7 from throwing the ball to DBT and getting a leisurly dead-ball appeal.

Just Curious Tue Mar 05, 2002 12:40pm

Obstruction...
 
I admit I didn't look at the rule book... But in terms of interference.... Interference can be physical, verbal, and visual.. ie intentionally blocking the view of the defense.
Can obstruction be considered in the same way? Obstructing the progress of the runner? It wasn't a physical obstruction, but the intent of her stepping into DBT was to impede the runner's progress around the bases...
Am I really reaching for something here??

Roger Greene Tue Mar 05, 2002 01:26pm

Re: Obstruction...
 
Quote:

[Am I really reaching for something here?? [/B]
Yep. Overreaching.

Roger Greene

whiskers_ump Tue Mar 05, 2002 09:53pm

Re: Technical Foul????
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Just Curious


How about B1 is out and F9 is charged with obstruction. R1 is given home as the base she could have attained had obstruction not occurred...

:D I don't believe you could convince a "<i><u>Magistrate"</i></u> that
obstruction occurred on this play. :eek:
and having read one's post I am sure you
could not. :)

glen



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