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JefferMC Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:57pm

I don't want to drag this out, but my "got shafted" comment comes from viewing the local news feeds where the ball definitely appeared to be out of the hands before the horn sounded. (On the other hand, it appears that in the time frame in question, the speed of sound is quite relevant.)

I don't normally frequent the BB board. I did after I posted this out of curiosity, which took me to the Spartanburg paper's web site. Looking at that, I see what you see, that it isn't quite possible to tell if the ball was out of the hands before the light on the backboard came on. I'd love that sequence at a right angle to the shot's path, with the backboard light included.

I agree that a team has little right to complain if they let the score get that close. And if the shot was late, then it shouldn't be counted just because it was an outstanding shot.

My main point is that regardless of the quality or accuracy of the officiating, having it become a legislative issue is hogwash.

Dakota Fri Mar 07, 2008 01:12pm

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Originally Posted by JefferMC
My main point is that regardless of the quality or accuracy of the officiating, having it become a legislative issue is hogwash.

I agree, none of the legislature's business.

Even if replay had been in place for this shot, it is highly unlikely to have changed the call on the court, for two reasons:

1) It was exceedingly close, and therefore the on-court call cannot be reversed due to the lack of "indisputable video evidence"

2) The video review would probably also show that the clock operator was about 1 step (of the player) late in starting the clock.

Of course, all this depends on how the replay rule would be written.

Regardless, I agree the legislature is just grandstanding for the folks back home (especially those back home in Spartanburg).

It is entertaining to read some of the comments posted to the various local papers running the story... especially those that claim the result was "clearly" this or that based on the video (or even more humorously, based on seeing it in person - from the stands!).

Andy Mon Mar 10, 2008 01:27pm

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
One very good reason: because the then Seattle Tacoma UIC said so. :)

As opposed to our UIC here in Phoenix - who requires a timer to be available and hung on the fence for all to see.

Skahtboi Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:00pm

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Originally Posted by Andy
As opposed to our UIC here in Phoenix - who requires a timer to be available and hung on the fence for all to see.

Does he supply them???

Dakota Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:04pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Does he supply them???

Sure... they're shipped in from Seattle.

Skahtboi Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
Sure... they're shipped in from Seattle.

That's exactly what I thought to myself after I posted the previous post. :eek:

SRW Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
Sure... they're shipped in from Seattle.

That's not a bad idea...;)

Andy Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Does he supply them???

No more so than he supplies any other required equipment - like the uniform shirt, pants, caps, shoes, etc.....

Phoenix ASA uniform

(SRW - if you want to ship a few down here, it would save me a few bucks) :D

SRW Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Andy
(SRW - if you want to ship a few down here, it would save me a few bucks) :D

Features & Specifications
When the pie is in the oven and the game is 1 hour and 40 minutes, and each has a different cooking time, turn to the Taylor Weekend Warrior Two-Event Digital Kitchen Timer, which helps you monitor the cooking length of two different items. Two independent timers count separately and simultaneously up to or down from 23 hours, 59 minutes 59 seconds. The second timer display may be switched to a clock display, and back again, while the second timer continues to run.
  • Easy-to-read backlit 1" LCD screen
  • Times two events simultaneously
  • Water-resistant

Customer Product Reviews:
The timer works great but has some drawbacks. The magnets aren't strong enough to hold it to the fence in vertical position. The five minute warning is a little annoying, and can distract batters. ... But having two timers is a nice feature and the clock is a nice feature as well. Might want to note that this product is on the Seattle Metro ASA Banned Equipment List.


:D

Skahtboi Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by Phoenix UIC
Countdown timer - hung on fence or

Hung on fence or what? Kept in pocket? Worn on temple guard of mask? All we do know is that he doesn't want it on the wrist or belt, but then again, who does?!?!

Dakota Mon Mar 10, 2008 04:04pm

First time I've seen the 4-stich hat as illegal...

wadeintothem Mon Mar 10, 2008 07:27pm

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Originally Posted by SRW

No "shave 2 mins" button?

azbigdawg Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:42pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Does he supply them???


No. I dont....


and trust me...it works well, no problems....


It definitely wasnt my idea originally, but I like it

Skahtboi Tue Mar 11, 2008 08:20am

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Originally Posted by azbigdawg
No. I dont....


and trust me...it works well, no problems....


It definitely wasnt my idea originally, but I like it

Okay Darrell, please address my last post.

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi
Phoenix UIC (Darrell) said on his website: "Countdown timer - hung on fence or..."


Hung on fence or what? Kept in pocket? Worn on temple guard of mask? All we do know is that he doesn't want it on the wrist or belt, but then again, who does?!?!


Stu Clary Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:54am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
One very good reason: because the then Seattle Tacoma UIC said so. :)

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Originally Posted by Andy
As opposed to our UIC here in Phoenix - who requires a timer to be available and hung on the fence for all to see.

Maybe the Sea-Tac UIC is a soccer fan? The referee is the only person that sees the clock in commie kickball...


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