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tcblue13 Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:27am

The Running Lane
 
Video of an out call at first for violating the running lane and the mess that follows

Umpires leave the field

If this was your game, what would you have done?


Warning****
There is some profane language.

mo99 Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:58am

I would have given another beer to the idiot in the white pajama shorts.:eek:

LIIRISHMAN Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:28pm

Without getting in to the call itself. I would be telling #23 and #7 their night is over as far as this game is concerned. Terrible job by the blue in handling the aftermath. I've seen bar brawls better officiated.

IRISHMAFIA Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by LIIRISHMAN
Without getting in to the call itself. I would be telling #23 and #7 their night is over as far as this game is concerned. Terrible job by the blue in handling the aftermath. I've seen bar brawls better officiated.

With all due respect, I don't see a "blue" on the field.

Ed Maeder Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:33pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
With all due respect, I don't see a "blue" on the field.

I'll second that!

Dakota Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:46pm

How many times is a link to this clip going to be posted?

wadeintothem Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:44am

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Originally Posted by Dakota
How many times is a link to this clip going to be posted?

Oh come on, its always funny to see how Washington umpires dress. Those spiffy bicycle shorts are tops!

:)

bkbjones Sun Jul 08, 2007 03:16am

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
Oh come on, its always funny to see how Washington umpires dress. Those spiffy bicycle shorts are tops!

:)

Yup, that's standard uniform for the USSSSSSSSA guys up here. couple of em, well, let's just say enough Spandexes haven't died to adequately cover their a$$e$.

As for me, I don't own a red shirt.

And I would have run more than two of these guys...but I would have run them long before these two red-shirted idiots did anything.

3afan Sun Jul 08, 2007 06:24am

another good example to avoid "adult" SP

IRISHMAFIA Sun Jul 08, 2007 08:43am

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Originally Posted by 3afan
another good example to avoid "adult" SP

Does anyone really know what the call was? I seemed to me that the most likely argument would have been a running lane call even though the runner seemed good to me, based on F3's location when attemption to snag the errant throw.

But the arguments seemed to be based on the area where F1 fielded the ball and threw it. Is it possible he called a foul ball or INT on the BR? If you turn up your speakers you can hear the umpire say he called dead ball right away when one of the players (who apparently was studying the dictionary that day) started screaming "you have to call that instantaneous".

However, what do you want these guys to do? They forfeited the game. And with common SP mentality, only when they heard the umpire say the game is over did they resolve themselves to finishing the game.

Why is it these idiots think it is okay to act like a$$holes and then once they realize they've gone to far, all of a sudden they don't understand why the umpires are leaving? And though more prevelant in SP, there are a fair amount of FP adults (including youth coaches) who act in the same manner.

wadeintothem Sun Jul 08, 2007 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Why is it these idiots think it is okay to act like a$$holes and then once they realize they've gone to far, all of a sudden they don't understand why the umpires are leaving? And though more prevelant in SP, there are a fair amount of FP adults (including youth coaches) who act in the same manner.

LOL!

FP adults are the same or worse.. Probably worse on average. Many Beer leaguers are just playing for fun.. the FP players are reliving their "man I woulda made the MLB if it wasnt for the ole knee" every moment.

SC Ump Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:03pm

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Originally Posted by tcblue13
If this was your game, what would you have done?

In the link noted:

(1) I hope I would have called the BR out for being out of the lane and interferring with F3 receiving the catch. (In slow-mo, for several strides, the BR's right foot seemed to be on the foul line and the left foot in fair territory.)

(2) I would have "forced" the arguing team to only have their coach discuss the play with me. At one point the PU seemed to be discussing it with seven players at once.

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The link supplied had references to videos for Part-2 and Part-3 of the same incident. A few items I found interesting were:

(A) Players apparently walking away from umpires as they are getting in their trucks, shouting back for them (umpires) to just shut-up and drive home. (Why were the umpires still yelling at players walking away? I like players walking away.)

(B) Players commenting that the umpires never ejected anyone, they just walked off the field.

And my favorite ....
(c) Coach noting, after the umpires had left, "I protest that call. He never called 'Dead ball'. He never called 'Dead ball'. He called 'Time out'." :D

3afan Mon Jul 09, 2007 07:34am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
.,..there are a fair amount of FP adults (including youth coaches) who act in the same manner.


true enuf ....

bellnier Mon Jul 09, 2007 09:41am

"Yo, we want our money back". LMFAO.

CecilOne Mon Jul 09, 2007 09:52am

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Originally Posted by 3afan
true enuf ....

Not the youth coaches I see.

bigsig Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:15am

Friday night I did a 10U
Bottom of the 5th, 2 outs I see lightning. I call the game and have the kids leave the filed. Both coaches argued with me to continue. This was a rec league. Non-championship game! Then when I refused they demanded money back!
Best game to ump: 2 teams of orphans! :)

Dakota Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:26am

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Originally Posted by bigsig
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Best game to ump: 2 teams of orphans! :)

Coached by nuns. ;)

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:31am

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Originally Posted by Dakota
Coached by nuns. ;)

Then you would finally have someone on the field using "clickers" :D

LIIRISHMAN Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:05am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Does anyone really know what the call was? I seemed to me that the most likely argument would have been a running lane call even though the runner seemed good to me, based on F3's location when attemption to snag the errant throw.

But the arguments seemed to be based on the area where F1 fielded the ball and threw it. Is it possible he called a foul ball or INT on the BR? If you turn up your speakers you can hear the umpire say he called dead ball right away when one of the players (who apparently was studying the dictionary that day) started screaming "you have to call that instantaneous".

However, what do you want these guys to do? They forfeited the game. And with common SP mentality, only when they heard the umpire say the game is over did they resolve themselves to finishing the game.

Why is it these idiots think it is okay to act like a$$holes and then once they realize they've gone to far, all of a sudden they don't understand why the umpires are leaving? And though more prevelant in SP, there are a fair amount of FP adults (including youth coaches) who act in the same manner.

I'n not condoning the players actions but I do have issues with the umpires particularly the Plate umpire.Mike my problem with the Plate ump was how meekly he made the call. Then he lets the players carry on. I also believe if he had ejected someone he may have been able to restore order and regain control of the game and finish it. Suspending or forfeiting a game should be a last resort.

Dakota Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:09am

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Originally Posted by LIIRISHMAN
I'n not condoning the players actions but I do have issues with the umpires particularly the Plate umpire.Mike my problem with the Plate ump was how meekly he made the call. Then he lets the players carry on. I also believe if he had ejected someone he may have been able to restore order and regain control of the game and finish it. Suspending or forfeiting a game should be a last resort.

Never having umpired an AA game, I hesitate to engage in "what I woulda done" comments, but the first guy who charged the umpire should have been ejected (maybe even with the MLB heave-ho). Would that have restored order? I doubt it, given the attitudes of the entire team... maybe after 3 or 4 ejections they would have settled down, but then they may have forfeited at that point due to being shorthanded.

I agree, though, that the PU seemed to be unable to project the necessary authority to maintain control.

NDblue Sun Jul 15, 2007 01:18pm

After seeing this video several times, I personally wouldn't have called anything. As PU, I probably wouldn't have been concentrating on the BR's feet instead paying attention to the ball and where it was at. I'm probably wrong but that's OK and nobody would have argued with me about not calling anything. I'm not against people arguing with me it's just that I'm not that nitpicky about where BR's foot might be when running to 1B. I personally don't care if his left foot is 1" inside fair territory and if he gets hit in the back by a thrown ball, I have "nothing".

Wouldn't this call be BU's?

tcblue13 Sun Jul 15, 2007 01:46pm

Regardles of the call
#7 is real close to gone to start.
#23 is headed to the parking lot.
The coach (#7 who is walking on a razor blade in a mudslide) is told to remove his team from the discussion. If he fails to do so, the player who continues to argue and #7 is gone.
"That's enough, Let's play"
If the fiasco continues eject until forfeit.


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