What's your call?
 

What the heck... anyone got OBS here?


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From the evidence offered, no. At least, not yet.

no OBS ...

Doesn't look like obs to me. In fact, it looks as though this may be a force play at the plate!

I'd have a no call from what I'm seeing--
catcher is not obstructing the runner's ability to go to the
plate. Judgling from what I think is the speed of the ball
compared to the speed of a sliding runner-- and if this is
indeed a force play (see runner going to 3rd ? )-- looks like
if caught--an out ??
So tell us !!

I agree with that.

Another thing is that it looks like she's not being impeded. She appears to be given the path that she chose (straight into home, coming in full throttle).

No obstruction.

Looks like proper positioning of F2 to me, NO OBS!!!! By the way these kind of pic's are very helpful in discussing obstruction or interference, wish we had more of them!!!

How in the world can anyone tell that it looks like a force by looking at the runner going into third. No way to tell by the picture we are looking at. Dave

No, no, and oh yeah, NO !!!!!!!

I think everyone is basing it on where and how F2 is setting up to receive the throw. To me, it looks like a force play as well.

Catcher's posture.

Also have a runner going into third. Catcher is set for a throw to 1B after play at plate.

Plate is WIDE open. No OBS.

SRW,

There must be a reason here. Was it called OBS? Did you witness this one? You gotta have more on this story!

What is the point here?

Well, I think the most obvious problem is the batter's boxes have been wiped out. This was most likely intentional and needs to be addressed. Furthermore, I think the runner is trying to commit interference by throwing her hands in the air to prevent a throw to third. Of course all of this really won't matter because the runner is actually tagging up and trying to score on a fly ball to F9 for the 2nd out and both runners left early (if this were really a force situation the runner shouldn't be slidding but rather running full speed through home plate, althougth she may have slowed up and slid to avoid the pitcher who is backing up the ball just behind home). Once play is over the defense is actually going to appeal for a 3rd and eventual advantageous 4th out. Once this is over the offensive coach is going to appeal that an illegal glove was used to make the original catch by F9, to which the defensive coach will appeal an illegal bat used to hit the ball in the first place. Not to be outdone, the BU will realize that the pitch was actually illegal and made by an illegal substitute. Fortunately the official scorekeeper has decided to rectify the situtation by pointing out that the batter was BOO. At this point the parents of #11 in the picture let you know that she isn't really a she, if you get my point. Meanwhile a fan behind the screen begins dropping f-bombs on everyone involved. In a moment of sanity, the PU tosses everybody and wakes up thinking I've got to stop dreaming about all the OBS plays that keep coming up on The Official Forum. :cool:

I do! But there's got to be more responses than what's posted! I'll be waiting for another day before I post what happened...:)

Are you trying to get at that maybe F2's foot is not actually touching home plate, and is in front of it?
Or if F2's foot is on the plate, is that OBS because the runner has been impeded from touching that part of home plate? That does not appear to be the case, as the ball should arrive before the runner does, thus no OBS.

:D lol :D :cool:

I prefer making calls with movement, not stop-action.

a) runner is turning/bending right and still inside 3rd base line, so what was her path and did she turn/bend because the fielder was partly on the plate?

b) was the runner initially aiming at the catcher, to prevent further plays?

c) was the fieder initially blocking the plate and slid her foot forward as she reached for the throw?

d) who is that immediately behind #11 near 3rd? If F5, why not covering?
If BU, must be >2 ump system. If coach, ...

e) is the plate really wide open with fielder's foot on part of it?

f) is the camera angle or distance fooling us?

None of those matter, because we can only answer questions as they are presented, even if competent.

Wait, you forgot that the runner #7 going from 2B to 3B has her shirt untucked, runner #11 has a foreign substance applied to her hands, and there appears to be no pitcher's circle indicated on the infield...

There is no NOCSAE stamp visible on the catcher's helmet...and she's not wearing those "Knee Savers."

when will they invent Knee Savers for umps?

I finally got it!

Both feet are aiborne at the same time, a classic leap! IP, score the run!

She is signalling wrong though, should be a delayed dead ball!

One more: F5 is obstructing R2...

Just tell us what the deal is on this one. Looks pretty unanimous to me, and pretty clear based on only what we see in this picture. Unless something that I would not possibly guess from this picture has occurred befoer the picture was taken, I can't see OBS here either.

So ... spill it.

I agree, but if this is not a force out situation the catcher is positioned wrong and the tag will probably be late or maybe unintentionally knocked loose by the runners arm or hand when applied. .. Al

this is worse than christmas.... the suspense is killing me. im gonna post this 99 more times.. so we can get an answer... <lol> BTW how do you make those reply's to other comments? and whats the "title" box for? i looked in FAQ's section and didnt see anything.(damn i hate saying that..lol)

FINALLY! Someone got it! :D
The OBS was called on F5, not F2!

partial credit
 

Partial credit? Yesterday, 04:50pm


wrt "BTW how do you make those reply's to other comments? and whats the "title" box for?"
- the QUOTE button, bottom right of each post
- if you want your post to have a sub-title that "clarifies" who others are responding to (see this post)

thanks, i think this worked

But, that wouldn't be MY call, since with this view, I'm PU. You asked, "What's YOUR call?" ;)

No, I asked if anyone had OBS here. ;)

Well...even with the additional information, using what I can see, I still have nothing.

You don't read your own thread title? :D ;)

Actually, I was only joking...I think any of Boomer Sooner's would carry more weight than that!

But I'll take credit for being observant.

Bah. I've heard enough from you. You're restricted to your dugout. :eek:





;)

heck im thinking EJECTION.... out of sight and sound! <lol>

Oh no! The last time SRW restricted someone to the dugout, the team's assistant coach got run because he made inappropriate remarks about biologically impossible actions concerning SRW...in front of a bunch of high school girls who, I am sure, all had virgin ears and had never heard such things before in their lives.

Ooooooh! What was said? What was said? Tell!! I have GOT to hear this one!

Well, the version I heard was that the ol' head coach was being a bit of a miscreant.

SRW, the PU, trying to be a nice guy -- and since the coach was getting his hat handed to him in what would be their last game of the year just a win short of going to state -- restricted the head coach to the dugout.

A short time later, head coach comes out of the dugout. SRW reminds the ol' head coach that he's in time out and doesn't have permission to leave time out. At that point, assistant coach calls SRW a "!$#ing !#@hole," earning the assistant coach a free trip to the parking lot. At this complex the parking lot is a pretty long jaunt, especially when you are getting your hat handed to you.

Stories that SRW hollered "Go start the bus" at the assistant coach have NOT been substantiated. BUT...since he said this in front of all the girls, well, coach, go start the bus. Good part of it is that assistant coach gets to miss first game next year -- even if he goes to a different school.

Meanwhile, SRW is going to state tournament in Class 2A, which is in Wenatchee (Apple Capital of The World). Wenatchee is on the other side of the Cascades, which means it is 85 and sunny at 10 a.m. and in Wenatchee, if you say those two words in front of young girls you could damned well go to jail.

Ok, so now I get to clarify some misconceptions!

This is true. He didn't like the fact that his F1, who was hitting her spot on that outside corner, suddenly wasn't anymore. In the top of the 7th. Down 5-1. Rather than send him packing, I tried to keep him in the game.

True to some degree. The primary story is true, but the second, unsubstantiated verbal directive about starting the bus is not. I know they hire bus drivers for that.

Actually, I'm going to the 1A in Moses Lake. Not as many apples there, but the temperature is the same... and if you said those words in Moses Lake, you'd probably get shot. It'll be a good time.